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Gall Bladder Flush, Part III
| By Michael Adkisson on Monday, January
21, 2002 - 08:12 am:
"If the scoliosis didn't
show up until just recently, there is every reason to suspect
something else, such as parasites and irregular use of calcium
. . . Have you given this thought?"
That thought had not occurred to me. However, I have been taking
supplements for the past two years. Do you think it's possible
that parasites may be blocking absorption of calcium? And if
so, what would be a valid treatment? The scoliosis seems to
have developed over a period of time. However, it appeared
from the X-ray that a severe trauma occurred in the neck area
because the disc's between the twisted vertebrae had deteriorated
by more than 50%. There was, in fact, a severe injury that
happened to my neck area as a child.
Back to the gall bladder...since the initial flush last week, I
feel much better. Metabolism is improved. Even dramatic improvement
in the excess mucus I've been experiencing. However, there
remains a slight discomfort in the area of the gall stone. The
more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it is a duct.
I read about the procedure for gall bladder flush by Dr. Hulda
Clark, who says that many people have as many as thousands of gall
stones. She also says that if this is the case, then usually the
pain would not completely go away. Her recommendation was to do
the flush several times. In fact I did a second flush over the
weekend but no more large gall stones came out, although there
was some debris. I think perhaps another agent should be introduced
to liquify some of the gunk?
I am suspecting that a duct(s) might be clogged. In any
case, I want to try the "Stone Free" product and will order
some today. If this works, as I suspect it will, then I'll
order more. In any case, the gall stones that came out last week
are sufficient validation that there was a problem. Now that I've
turned my focus to that area, hopefully the organ will become rejuvenated.
I am totally convinced, after years of reading and trying different
approaches, that my recurring health problems are (were) related
to the gall bladder. You might say that I've just narrowed
things down at this point.
| By Michael Adkisson on Monday, January
21, 2002 - 01:29 pm:
Mike here again.
I did some reading on parasites...I must say that a past parasitical
infection may have been present, but would tend to discount that
possibility within the last two years. Bones appeared strong on
x-ray except for degeneration of disc's in key areas. But two
years ago I had a health crisis, and there were circumstances that
forced me to take my health into my own hands. Today I maintain
a whole shelf of alternative medicines. Some would say I'm
a fanatic. My wife probably would. But...my father died at 50 and
I'm going on 47, and I plan on beating the odds. Medical diagnosis
carries its own risks...such as eventual public disclosure and
family pressure to submit to sometimes fatal treatments by misguided
though otherwise benevolent health-case practitioners. Unfortunately
it is a system created for the many except very rare cases...I
am that rare case, unfortunately.
Colloidal silver is known to kill parasites. I have used colloidal
silver successfully to fight a number of different things. Gradually
I learned that colloidal silver is best used as a beverage. I make
my own and dilute with distilled water, ingesting it every day.
In addition, I eat fresh garlic at night. I also take oregano extract,
goldenseal, and eat fresh pineapple. In short, it would be surprising
if anything microbiological existed inside except friendly flora,
since I take refrigerated tablets frequently. Recently I cured
myself of an ingrown toenail with colloidal silver and strenuous
massage. It occurs to me, however, that prolonged gall bladder
problems might result in a collapsed immune system more prone to
I have been relatively disease-free for over two years. However,
I began to notice something was still wrong because the allergies
were getting much worse, and more aggressive dosages of my own
medicine were required during those days when I was obviously exposed
to disease (because of colloidal silver, an MD would not diagnose
me as sick on surface inspection, but in reality I do get very,
very mild forms of what other people know as disease). It's
really been a process of elimination that has me now focused upon
the gall bladder -- although I want to maintain an open-mind about
other possibilities. Last year, for example, my focus was the spinal
column, for which I received more than 60-75 adjustments during
a treatment period of 30 visits. This chiropractor is into many
various diagnostic techniques and alternative approaches. He's
the one who first suggested the problem with the gall bladder,
specifically the duct(s). It seemed to fit the facts, since
I should have been getting "more bang for the buck" what
with all the things I was using. There was definitely a lack of
absorption. My guess is that it will take a process of time to
completely regenerate the gall bladder, but a giant leap was made
BTW, I have ordered two bottles of Stone Free (I always think
of Jimi Hendrix whenever I see that name) from your site. Obviously
depending upon the effect, I will most likely order more after
experimenting with the dosage.
| By Kim Skye on Monday,
January 21, 2002 - 06:58 pm:
Regarding colloidal silver (a little off your
gallbladder topic; hope that's o.k.). This is something
that I've always been very drawn to and have used sporadically
over the years. However, I'm never quite sure about its use
because I've heard from various sources that it should not
be used for more than a two week period. And if that's the
case and one uses it for two weeks how long before beginning again
with it? Also, what is reason for not using it for more than two
| By Ingrid on Monday,
January 21, 2002 - 08:50 pm:
Like antibiotics, colloidal silver destroys some
friendly bacteria as well as the pathogenic organisms. Capping
use at two weeks sounds simplistic. Everything depends on the quality
of the product, how easily assimilated it is (particle size),
how pure it is, and what the dosage is. There is an excellent article
on colloidal silver reprinted on this site:
| By Denise on Monday,
January 21, 2002 - 08:52 pm:
I have gallstones and I am planning on doing the
flush. Have talked to a few people and I have two questions about
what I have learned: (1) Is it possible to take 2-3 spoonfuls
of olive oil at bedtime for consequtive nights and have success
passing stones? (2) "Chanca piedra" was recommended
to me to disolve gallstones. What do you know about this product?
| By Melissa Overholser
on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 07:44 am:
I had a Gall Bladder attack in September shortly
after I had my daughter. I started taking Stone Free to avoid surgery
after having a surgeon tell me I needed to schedule surgery. I
had an attack about a week ago and took teh pain medicine the docotr
gave me. I want to try the Flush however I rearely have a weekend
free. I am home during the week with my 4 month old. Is it somethng
I can due during the week with my daughter at home with me? Also
I read in some of the posts about using the Stone Free during an
attack? Could you give me some more information? Also any suggestions
for how I can change my diet or websites where I can get information?
| By Michael Adkisson
on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 07:55 am:
I've never heard that one should not take
colloidal silver for more than two weeks. That seems rather arbitrary.
Many people are not comfortable with colloidal silver. However,
did you know that much of the soil on the North American continent
has become demineralized due to soil erosion, runoff, and nitrate
fertilization? Most people (and plants) have mineral deficiencies.
That, coupled with the fact that many germs are antibiotic-resistant,
makes this world a more dangerous place.
How often one uses colloidal silver really depends upon the individual's
situation. After our baby was born in 1999, and when we enrolled
him in day care, I suddenly found myself going into a "hot
zone" environment everyday. Colloidal silver has given me an
extra layer of resistance. I highly recommend it.
Good luck on the gall bladder flush. It really works.
| By Ingrid on Tuesday,
January 22, 2002 - 07:38 pm:
Thanks all of you!
Somewhere on this board, I discuss my own use of Stone Free, 6
tablets every half hour when the attack is full force. One can
taper off when the pain subsides.
As for the flush, the only reason for being at home is that frequent
and sometimes fairly urgent elimination occurs. There are also
those sentimental gemologists who want to keep their stones as
souvenirs and this is obviously quite awkward in some places.
You do need to go to bed at a reasonable hour and sleep soundly.
Some people have slow transit times and the drama occurs a day
later than expected so keep that contingency in mind.
As for drinking a few teaspoons of olive oil and lemon juice every
night, I don't think it would work. If it did work, salad dressing
would do the trick for many people. However, if you try it, let
us know what happens.
| By Candi Howley on
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 04:45 pm:
I have had bouts of pain under my rib cage and
excruciating feeling of pressure or gasiness which radiates into
my back. This has occurred several times since the birth of my
daughter 8 years ago. Whenever I have had these bouts, I have gone
to the doctor who in turn sent me for ultrasounds and upper GIs.
The tests have always been normal. Is it possible to have gall
bladder problems that tests just don't pick up? Does a problem
with a gall bladder affect your spleen? (That's the only
thing that has ever shown up on the ultrasound - an enlarged spleen
- but my doctor thinks it is enlarged from having severe mononucleosis
when I was a teenager 20 years ago. Eating anything is causing
me pain. I would like to try the Stone Free - is it available at
health food stores (so I could get my hands on it tomorrow!)?
Thanks so much.
| By Michael Adkisson
on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 12:04 pm:
I'm waiting for my Stone Free to arrive by
mail, as I ordered it on Monday. However, I did pick up a bottom
of Turmeric with Bromelain. Can this be used in high dosages? I
really hate it when web sites say to only use under the care of
a physician (although I fully understand CYA)...because
I don't know of any physicians who believe in herbal remedies.
| By Ingrid on Friday,
January 25, 2002 - 04:33 pm:
It sounds like an immune booster and something to promote digestion
would be helpful. Stones should show up on ultrasounds.
When the body does not produce enough hydrochloric acid to digest
food, some food is broken down by fermentation which throws off
a gas that has indeterminate and variable symptoms, often very
sharp pains that come and go or spasms that are annoying but not
Avoid food that is hard to digest. This includes anything prepared
in a microwave oven, anything reheated, anything out of a box or
can, and anything that is heavy and boring in taste.
See if this helps. The next step would be
| By Ingrid on Friday,
January 25, 2002 - 04:40 pm:
This is like telling tales out of school, but here is the rule
generally followed by herbal companies where labeling is concerned.
They try to package the herbs so that the worst case scenario in
the event that someone took all the tablets at once would be vomiting
or diarrhea, i.e., not a dangerous overdose, but more than the
body could assimilate.
The amount put on the label is usually pretty close to a Mickey
Mouse dosage and the euphemism of "or as prescribed by your
licensed health care professional" is a way of saying, "go
ahead and take more but we are not responsible for the outcome."
I'm being a little too candid for my own good, but most herbalists
would probably recommend much higher doses than are printed on
the labels. This said, herbs are not all equal. There is no such
thing as an overdose of turmeric. It's absolutely safe in simply
unimaginable dosages, but bromelain may be another matter since
it is an enzyme and too much may not really be a good idea. This
is why I use the Turmeric Flavonoid. First, it's in a tablet
and therefore doesn't make the capsule sticky and secondly,
it's combined with ginger rather than an enzyme.
There are lots of doctors, naturopaths, chiropractors, and herbalists
who work with herbs, but as Kenny Ausubel once said, he'd rather
see an herbalist with 30 years of experience than a doctor who
took a crash course.
| By candi317 on Monday,
January 28, 2002 - 08:03 am:
Thanks for answering my post (1/25 @4:30 p.m.). Would you
kindly recommend something to promote digestion and to boost immunity?
Thanks so much.
| By Michael Adkisson
on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 08:43 am:
Thanks, Ingrid. Your candor is appreciated; I
suspected that the packaging of herbal capsules was understandably
conservative for that reason. I've read about all kinds of
amazing cures using various remedies on message boards, and in
nearly all cases the people who succeeded were those who tried
Unfortunately, I cannot be quite so candid with my wife, who is
a chemical engineer, quite traditional, and up until recently believed
that herbal capsules were drugs (I explained the difference
between synergestic naturals and synthetics). Of course, she
is healthy and has never been in the position that I have. She
knows all about my alternative remedies, but doesn't really
believe in them. You might say we have agreed to disagree.
The Turmeric I bought is put out by Source Naturals, with Turmeric
350 mg, and Bromelain 50 mg. Basically I doubled the dosage, and
experienced no adverse reaction.
My chiropractor is familiar with many alternative approaches to
medicine, but I wouldn't necessarily call him an herbalist.
I will continue to seek out an herbalist.
I received my two bottles of Stone Free on Friday. Really a remarkable
product! The digestive system has improved dramatically and I'm
feeling much better. There is still a feeling that something is
not quite right, but that's not surprising since I was ignoring
the discomfort for two years. Stone Free definitely made a difference,
and I'm experimenting with dosage levels.
One more thing that I did not mention before: I had noticed lots
of excess mucus in the past year or two. That coincided with the
onset of the discomfort below the right rib cage. I never made
any connection. Then, there were periods wherein I coughed up a
little phlegm in the mornings. It did not appear to be bronchitus
because it cleared up during the day. Then it became chronic since
mid-December (still, in the mornings). After my first gall
bladder flush, it suddenly stopped! That was no coincidence. Just
recently I learned that the mucus/phlegm can be a symptom of gall
bladder disfunction. It was in my case.
This entire experience explains a lot of things. Many of my herbal/alternative
remedies were having less effect, and I believe the root cause
was lack of absorption/digestion.
It's still a very toxic world that we live in, and I think
we are all seeking new equilibriums. Doubtless there will be further
modifications as we learn more. But I certainly will be adding "Stone
Free" to my permanent list of "must have" natural medicines.
| By Ingrid on Monday,
January 28, 2002 - 10:00 am:
Dear Candi and Michael,
I have decided to post a page on digestion, phlegm, and immunity
in response to your questions. When uploaded, it will be found
I'll start now and depending on interruptions, you might see
it in a few hours.
| By Nicky Naessens
on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 12:18 pm:
I have a question re:gall bladder removal. Mine
came out last Monday. Because I hate the hospital and I seemed
to be doing okay I was released the next afternoon. Although it
is still very painful (it came out via laparoscopic surgery),
I am doing fine. I am wondering about one thing: somewhere on your
site you talk about problems a lot of gall bladder people have
with fluid retention. I seem to be one of them. Wake up looking
at my own cheeks regularly and did so the first morning after returning
from the hospital. Today the same. I am wondering whether you can
tell me anything food wise or natural medicine wise, I could do
or not do to improve the way my body handles fluids?
| By Virginia on Thursday,
January 31, 2002 - 06:24 pm:
I just discovered your site and have read all
the entries on the Gall Bladder flush board. Some of the things
I have read have really got me intrigued.
First some background to my problem. I have had high cholesterol
for years. I refuse to take the prescription medications, as I
believe they are deadly.
Over the years, I have tried different things (garlic, gugulipid,
niacin, red wine, pomegranate juice) along with some dietary
changes to help lower my cholesterol, but with no effect. During
the last 6 months I have become quite aggressive in doing what
I can about my cholesterol count (340 in September, 292 in
November, and 287 in January). I was quite faithful to my regimen
after September. I know that the pomegranate juice did a lot of
good because prior to taking it my left leg would go numb when
I stood (or laid flat on my stomach) and it doesn't
any more. I was quite shocked in January that my cholesterol was
not a lot lower as I was measuring my progress with my leg numbness,
which was gone during standing (and didn't appear until
after about 10 minutes when lying down). Also, my triglicerides
had doubled (up to 402).
Reading up on all this, I discovered that refined carbohydrates
cause triglicerides to go up. From a relative, I also discovered
that I need to take fiber. So I started taking psyllum capsules
and grapefruit pectin powder -- which takes us to the point of
Even though I drink a lot of water normally, I guess I didn't
drink enough for all the fiber I was now taking. Last Thursday
night I awoke with extraordinary pain in my lower abdomen. I could
not even roll over. The process of sitting up was almost an impossibility.
To not get into too many details, I had an enema and used a laxative (not
fiber!) and a stool softener. After awhile, I was able to eliminate
most of the contents of my bowel, but the pain had not completely
abated by Monday morning. This concerned me. I did go to the doctor
and he scheduled a sonogram, which I had this morning. I do have
gallstones. The radiologists said she saw about 10-15 with one
about ½ inch in diameter. I know my doctor is going to recommend
removal of my gall bladder, and I am going to resist.
After reading all the entries on this board, I find that I do not
have any symptoms that are mentioned by the writers. Mine are more
consistent with a bowel blockage. However, nothing happens by chance;
so I believe this problem of mine led me to the knowledge that,
even though they are not the reason for my abdominal pain, I do
I plan on trying the gall bladder flush. (Reminds me of taking
castor oil as a child. Mother always gave it to us in the bathroom
so we would be close to a receptacle if - when - we threw up.) Nothing
ventured, nothing gained.
Now for my questions. The product Stone Free is mentioned quite
frequently in the entries. I have read other information on your
site and understand that one should take it prior to the flush,
but I am still not sure what the product does. Would you please
give me a little more information about the product in relation
to the flush.
Another entry mentions phlegm. I have been suffering from problems
with phlegm for the past several years. So much so that I have
been diagnosed as asthmatic. (Another diagnosis I wonder about.) I
am looking forward to your new board.
Also, I read something about fingernails in one of the emails.
Is there any relation to fingernails and gallstones? Over approximately
the last year my nails have become flattened - not rounded as they
used to be. Do you have any idea what this could mean?
Please keep up the good work. I feel I am quite lucky finding your
Oh, if Richard in Dallas finds a good doctor/herbalist I wish he
would let me know. I live in Fort Worth.
| By Ingrid on Friday,
February 01, 2002 - 07:15 pm:
I did post some material on digestion that answers
some of the questions in these latest posts. Basically, it's
easy to understand if we regard stones, phlegm, cholesterol, and
so forth as unmetabolized food. Think of metabolism in the same
way one does a carburetor. You need the right fuel mixture to burn
clean. If your fuel is an inferior type (doesn't burn well) or
your settings are off, the fuel won't burn clean.
Likewise, digestion is a process of fiery conversion of food to
nutrients. The waste products are separated out and eliminated,
but usually when digestion is slow, elimination is also.
If you want to speed up metabolism, you can consider a diet (fuel
choice) that is easier to metabolize or supplements that aid
the transformation of food.
Because gallstones are a complication of diet and metabolism, removing
the gallbladder doesn't fix the problem. It simply does away
with one of the many storage depots. Therefore, regardless of whether
one keeps or disposes of the gallbladder, one wants to adjust the
metabolism through diet and supplements.
I hope this makes sense.
| By Ingrid on Friday,
February 01, 2002 - 07:17 pm:
One would expect a certain amount of fluid retention after surgery
and trauma. The adrenals would be tired and the kidneys might not
be as efficient. In this instance, I would strengthen the adrenals
rather than stimulate the kidneys, but it's a judgment call.
| By Virginia on Friday,
February 01, 2002 - 09:38 pm:
Thank you for your reply. My doctor's office called today to
schedule me with a surgeon. I put them off. I am going to another
doctor on Monday and discuss the flush with him. I need to do the
flush as soon as possible -- plan is for next Friday. I will do
the apple juice for three days. Are you allowed to drink water
also, or just apple juice? Can you also suck on a lemon in addition
to the lemon juice? Or is the amount of juice to oil a proportional
I have no means to make apple juice nor the
time to receive any by mail, so is any unfiltered apple juice from
a health food store acceptable? Like Knudson's?
Thank you again for all your information and for taking the time
to share it. I read the site on phlegm. Is a lot of this covered
in the cassettes
"Kitchen Doctor"? It is truly good of you to not only share
your knowledge, but your time in answering questions. I've
come to the conclusion that one has to be one's own doctor
as most of them are not really knowledgeable about anything preventative.
| By Ingrid on Saturday,
February 02, 2002 - 07:25 pm:
Thanks for the nice comments. Yes, you should be able to use any
unfiltered apple juice.
The audio cassettes cover an amazing amount of material, six hours!
| By Nicky Naessens
on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 03:30 am:
Ingrid, thanks for your reply.
Question: how do I strengthen the adrenals, foodwise or otherwise??
| By Michael Adkisson
on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 02:51 pm:
Ingrid, thanks for posting the information about
I related my "gall bladder flush" story to my chiropractor
last week, and he noted that other patients of his had similar
success. He also related a rather peculiar kidney stone flush --
drinking a very large bottle of Classic Coke within an hour followed
by a dish of asparigus. Obviously this is not my focus at present
time, and I have no kidney problems, but thought this very interesting.
He had tried it himself and was totally convinced.
Last week my wife and I both came down with a respiratory flu-like
bug. I was freaking out a bit because here comes the phlegm again (which
had disappeared after the gall bladder flush). Since my wife
suffered the same; I was convinced that I was on the right track
and merely suffering a virus. Nevertheless, being sick convinced
me of the danger of not operating on all cylinders (and how
quickly borderline might turn into a serious situation). Sure
we can "get by" for awhile, but sooner or later things
catch up. In the days following, I chopped my diet in half, drank
lots of liquids (abstained from alcohol), rested, took "Stone
Free," ingested colloidal silver, and generally decided this
was my time to purge myself of pathogens and toxins. At night I
was drenched in sweat. I felt lots of heat coming out. Today I
feel great, better than I've felt in many years. Still some
mild discomfort below the rib cage, but it is gradually going away.
I say all of this merely to suggest that each case is different.
Although the gall bladder flush produced apparent and miraculous
results, I believe that there are a variety of yin/yang and spiritual
problems involved. The body has an enormous ability to rejuvenate
itself if we will allow it. In my case I am prone to recreating
conditions which brought on the excess heat in the first place.
This may sound strange, but my love affair with food and drink
stems from the fact that I tend to have surrealistic dreams and
visions during the night, and it sometimes scares me. But I have
no excuse today in that I've studied the eastern way, and have
a greater understanding of what it is I'm seeing, and have
been seeing, since I was a child. It is simply an inherent tendency
to slip easily into an altered state of consciousness during the
night while waking up, if that makes sense.
In summary, my health is improving day by day. Naturally I am not
so deluded as to think I am capable of a monastic lifestyle. Nonetheless,
I am intent upon getting "better gas mileage." The last
several nights have been very restful, and the colorful dreams
have been far more enjoyable than watching TV. Sometimes when I've
woken up I can hardly wait to go back to sleep to resume dreamtime.
Yes, I realize this doesn't appear to be related to the gall
bladder or digestion, but I think it does!
Thanks again for the great work you do. You never know what will
happen when you throw a few pearls (or in this case, gall stones) to
| By Ingrid on Monday,
February 04, 2002 - 10:42 pm:
I have been unable to get Recovery for several weeks. I have therefore
begun looking for alternative products with a good track record.
In the meantime, read the article on this site about adrenal exhaustion:
First, for the flu, there is a marvelous Chinese product call Yin
Chiao that we do sell even though it has yet to be introduced into
the text on this site. It consists mainly of forsythia and it works
A friend is doing her second gallbladder flush in less than a month.
She is taking the coke, ironically, because it was discussed in
an article by someone quite famous who referred to the very same
person, Dr. Nathalie Tucker, who first introduced me to the flush.
The coke is to reduce queasiness. I doubt it has any other medicinal
usefulness. I don't know if ginger would be acceptable. If
so, I would prefer it.
I learned a long time ago that whatever people experience, that
is their experience and however different it is from what others
do the same thing experience, it is part of picture for the one
seeing that picture. Some people report improved memory, better
vision and acuity, and all sorts of others things, but more vivid
dreaming is a new one: put the technicolor back in your dreams?
To the extent that vision, color, light, fire, inspiration, guidance,
and the eyes are inseparable from liver function, I totally believe
you have presented a new dimension to this fascinating process.
If in your seeing, more emerges that you wish to share, by all
means do so. Speaking strictly for myself, I am totally open to
new perspectives on gallstones and surrendering of gallstones and
whatever else may unfold.
| By Roberto on Thursday,
February 07, 2002 - 03:27 pm:
Wow...talk about food for thought (pun intended.)
I visited my new Dr today who basically suggested I have a sonogram
and that if I do have Stones, which she believes, my choices are
to; alter my diet, live with the pain or have surgery. Both my
parents and one brother have had their Gall Bladder removed. I'm
interested in the Stone Free but am concerned that there may be
a reaction with the blood pressure medication I'm taking (Diazide,
cardizem, and Lotensin.) Are you aware of other Stone Free
converts who were on a regimin of Blood Pressure medication?
| By Ingrid on Thursday,
February 07, 2002 - 11:28 pm:
Dyazide has two active ingredients. Thiazide
is a diuretic that causes loss of potassium (and magnesium.) The
magnesium loss could actually be contributing to the loss of
elasticity that is needed to pass stones. The potassium loss
is actually a more serious consideration with respect to surgery
than herbs. These mineral deficiencies can be corrected by eating
more fruit. The main thing to avoid herbally is redundancy, i.e.,
more diuretics, such as dandelion, which is, in fact, an ingredient
in Stone Free.
Triamterene is the other main ingredient of Dyazide. It is added
to prevent potassium loss and the main contraindications are the
same: avoid herbs that increase the removal of fluids from the
Cardizem is a calcium channel blocker and Lotensin is used with
Dyazide to reduce some side effects and promote better blood circulation.
Side effects cannot be anticipated. If any develop or change in
intensity, inform your doctor as soon as possible. Only your doctor
can determine if it is safe for you to continue taking Lotensin.
Read this on Lotensin from healthsquare.com:
More common side effects may include:
Cough, dizziness, fatigue, headache, high potassium levels (dry
mouth, excessive thirst, weak or irregular heartbeat, muscle
pain or cramps), nausea
If you develop swelling of your face,
around the lips, tongue, or throat; swelling of arms and legs;
sore throat, fever, and chills; or difficulty swallowing, you
should contact your doctor immediately. You may need emergency
Less common or rare side
effects may include:
Allergic reactions, anxiety, arthritis, asthma, blisters, bronchitis,
chest pain, constipation, dark tarry stool containing blood,
decreased sex drive, difficulty sleeping, dizziness when standing,
fainting, fluid retention, flushing, impotence, infection, inflammation
or peeling of the skin, inflammation of the stomach or pancreas,
itching, joint pain, low blood pressure, muscle pain, nervousness,
pounding heartbeat, rash, sensitivity to light, shortness of
breath, sinus inflammation, sweating, swelling of arms, legs,
face, tingling or pins and needles, urinary infections, vomiting,
So, you are taking drugs to
manage the effects of other drugs. This is all a nightmare for
an herbalist. I don't know what to suggest; the ball would
seem to be in your court.
Were it me, I'd get off all the drugs, but not cold turkey.
For instance, with all these drugs, is it safe to eat an enchilada?
what about a curry soup? Who knows?
You see, everything is energetic. Spices increase circulation,
especially cayenne. Garlic is a terrific blood pressure regulator,
but you can't increase your intake of garlic and take medicine.
In general, I would say that the amount of dandelion in Stone Free
is nothing to be concerned about, but where you take a drug to
control another drug, everything becomes an issue of milligrams.
Let us know what you decide to do, and good
| By Michael on Friday,
February 08, 2002 - 03:52 pm:
Ingrid, thanks for the recommendation on Yin Chiao...I
had heard about it before in another catalog that I order Fargelin
Yes, coke does have a relaxing effect...(er, the soft drink
I continue to have technicolor dreams successively. Very interesting,
since they had been on the wane for 2 years. I'll continue
to report progress. I'm still using Stone Free, everything
Another thing that has helped immensely is the practice of Zen
Buddhism, specifically consciously locating my focus in the hara (below
the belly-button). This is the true center of gravity, as all
yoga practitioners well know. My sole interest is merely to maintain
focus throughout the day. In doing so, I am noticed even more improvement
and more lessening of any discomfort below the right rib cage.
It occurs to me that any physical problem must also have an analog
in the spiritual body. In concentrating upon maintaining the center
of gravity, one's focus is removed from stress and anger, which
I believe is often an interrelated problem with liver-gall bladder
distress. I do not believe one should ignore physical symptoms (unless
one is an advanced adept or shaman) but I do believe it is
at least as important to focus upon this in the rejuventation process.
It can do no harm. Just more food for thought, so to speak...
| By Mandy Bennett on
Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 02:36 am:
I was diagnosed with gallstones a few months ago. after suffering
alot of pain the right side of my abdomen during pregnancy i under
went various test. These were all to no avail. Then in august 2001
i went back to my doctor who suggested i may have gall stones.
I underwent a ultrasound scan and this was confirmed. Unlike most
peoples doctors mine did not suggest surgery, he suggested that
i live with it if i can. I can live with it but not the pains that
i get. I get the burning sensation in my right side, but every
few months i get something that i cant find on here. That is my
stomach swells out (makes me look pregnant) and becomes
very painful so painful in fact that it cannot even be touched.
This could last anywhere between 1 to 5 hours. I cannot eat eggs
or certain fatty foods as this will cause the excuriating pain.
I just wondered is the pain of my stomach (which is over the
whole area not just right side) associated with gall stones
or could that be something else. I am lucky that i dont suffer
this pain regularly. I have taken the option to go on a low if
not virtually fat free diet, but i would love to get ris of the
stones if i could. I am a bit worried about trying the live/gallbladder
Could you please help me in what to do for the best.
| By Ingrid on Wednesday,
February 13, 2002 - 09:44 am:
Sorry to hear about this. Basically, what people need to realize
is that the body produces the chemicals needed to digest food.
This means that there is saliva to moisten food, hydrochloric acid
in the stomach to mix with the food and churn it, enzymes, bile,
and a host of other delicate substances such as insulin and various
other factors that break down food, make it assimilable, transport
it to the tissues where the nutrients are required, and eliminate
what is waste.
Not everyone produces enough digestive juices. Salivation begins
with excitement, first aroma and then taste. If food is bland or
appropriate amounts of time are not devoted to the pleasure of
eating, food will not be chewed into the nice enzymatic mash needed
in the stomach. If the proper messages are not sent to the body
that something savory is on its way, the body may not produce enough
gastric secretions. In these cases, food is not technically digested.
It is broken down by fermentation rather than digestion and this
causes abdominal rumbling, distention, and sometimes pain.
Some people simply can't produce enough digestive juices. These
people need to supplement with tablets that help the body assimilate
the nutrients needed to maintain the body. Other people are not
choosing food that they can digest. Some are running on so much
adrenaline that they are inhibiting the production of digestive
In this day of convenience foods and microwave ovens, everyone
needs to realize that 90%+ of everything out there is not really
a food but some kind of commercial product that is not wholesome.
We really can't grow food with poisons and expect them to be
nutritious. We probably can't genetically modify food and hope
to improve upon Nature. More importantly, we can't load up
our bodies with synthetic hormones and carbohydrates and hope to
The estrogenic effect of plastics, hormones used in the dairy and
meat industries to bulk up animals, and the excess intake of sugar
greatly impairs the delicate fire-water balance needed to maintain
Avoiding impossible to digest foods is the number one step to health.
When going through a cycle of poor digestion with the abdominal
pains you have described, try eating more sour berries. You will
find them very easy to digest and energizing. Avoid all dairy products,
especially those with bovine growth hormone and genetically modified
components, and focus on fruit and vegetables (not at the same
time) because they are easier to digest and less apt to become
I hope this rather lengthy response helps.
Mandy on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 12:56 pm:
response helped very much thankyou. I would appreciate it if you
could give me some more info on the live/gallbladder flush. I:e
is it safe? what do i need to do it? what should i do to prepare?
how is it done? what sort of results can i expect?
| By Ingrid on Thursday,
February 14, 2002 - 11:54 am:
Did you read the two pages on gallbladder
on this site? It's all explained there as well as within
the two discussion topics on this board.
This conversation is long so it is
being continued on a new page
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