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Azure
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 12:27 pm: | |
i'm sorry if this post isn't in the appropriate thread.
i'm considering your cilantro product for metals in the body.
the other thing i'm wondering about is composite fillings. i just went to the dentist yesterday and had two small fillings of this kind and this today i feel awful. this could be due to a number of things that i'm aware of but i wanted to ask you what kind of information you have about composites and if you think they are a problem, is there a specific way to address/target this kind of toxicity (if in fact composites are toxic)?
the other question is about the danger of e.m.f.'s . i know this is the wrong thread but i want to know if you have any information of that nature on your site. i looked but could not find.
thank you,
Azure
i didn't leave my e-mail because i'm having some difficulties with it recently that have not yet been taken care of. |
Ingrid
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:12 pm: | |
There is not a whole lot that I can say in support of composite fillings. I had quite a number of them put in when I had mercury removed and was actually worse off with the composites than I had been with mercury, but it took me several years to figure out why.
In deference to the dentist, he said, "Ingrid, if it ain't broke, don't fix it," and he advised against mercury removal. I do not think his advice was correct, but the composites are hugely estrogenic and they leech. Anyone who tastes them for months on end knows this to be a fact. I would never use one again.
Recently, I began replacing worn out fillings with Cerec restorations. These are also not perfect, but they have been remarkably inert, i.e. not reactive with other things in the mouth. However, they are rough and difficult to keep clean. Hygienists who have them in their own mouths tell me that chewing polishes them up. They do not decay, but I believe they retain germs so that the rest of the mouth is stressed more.
They require the use of bonding agents. Some of these products are really terrible. I will ask my dentist which bonding agents he used on which occasion because I complained bitterly about one of them.
The world of conscious dentistry is pretty divided over noble metals and porcelain (or Cerecs). I really hate the bonding agents, but infection and deferred maintenance of teeth are also problematic.
Let me know how to follow up here. |
Azure
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 03:20 pm: | |
arggghhh, i'm discouraged and tired. now what? i'm so sensitive to anything and everything. what was i to do with two cavities and a non-progressive dentist?
do you still have the composite fillings? do they ever stop leeching?
another question i have is, besides supporting the liver as best as i can, how to specifically address this new toxic addition to my body?
and oh lord what does estrogenic mean? i'm 40 and feel hormonally imbalanced as it is. can you expound on this ... estrogenic? hormone imbalance? and how to address it? i'm female.
thank you ... hope i'm not asking too much but i'm just so discouraged right now.
Azure |
Ingrid
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 03:50 pm: | |
Azure,
I really understand. I've been there. A few months ago, I posted an article on this site about xenoestrogens. It's a really serious issue.
The best way I can explain this is that we are physically who we are because of countless generations of adaptation. Call it "survival of the fittest" or whatever you prefer, but our bodies have developed immune responses to certain types of bacteria and perhaps even stress that is monetary or familial. However, none of us have inherited genes from our ancestors that address a sudden explosion of chemicals in our water, food, air, medications, household cleaning agents, etc. Since many of these chemicals mimic more familiar insults, the body responds the way it has learned to respond. A xenoestrogen behaves in an estrogenic manner and therefore causes some of the mood swings and other uncomfortable reactions that are similar to a really bad period or menopausal experience.
It is essentially the liver's task to remove these excess chemicals. So far as the "pseudohormonal" responses go, you have a few choices. You can try to bring up the level of progesterone to balance the estrogenic imbalance or you can increase your metabolism to burn it off. Estrogen is energetically watery so you can use fire to balance it: hot spices, exercise, action, decisiveness, etc. The excess estrogen tends to make one's libido obtrusively demanding but almost too feminine to deal with the moodiness. It also makes one more sensitive but blurry and indecisive, the opposite of fire.
I don't think the composites ever stop leeching. In fact, after years of observation the composites in my own mouth and those of friends and patients, I have a really dim opinion of them. In all deference to the various dentists who have put these fillings in my teeth, none actually recommended them. Moreover, they were very clear that they fillings are not as durable as other materials. My experience is that they taste terrible, leech, shrink, and eventually usually fall out. If they don't, decay forms around them because of the shrinkage.
Cerecs are fascinating, but I had four fillings replaced a few months ago and have not been able to psych myself up to tackle the next two. It's really a troubling situation. This said, I prefer the Cerecs over anything else I have tried. If your dentist isn't conscious, find one who is. Go on referral web sites or check the yellow pages for "environmental dentistry" (under dentists) or mercury-free dentistry or restoration specialist. Dare to inquire. I find most dentists are either oblivious to the hazards associated with the materials they use or they are in denial. Some shrug their shoulders and ask, "Well, what do you want me to do?"
As for the immediate present, you can take a homeopathic remedy to deal with the trauma or make the side effects of the anesthesia go away faster. You can take a detox formula for your liver and maybe some bilberry to help with the esotrogen sensitivity. None of these approaches a complete solution, but it may relieve some of your misery. |
Azure
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 04:10 pm: | |
thank you.
i was just reading your article on xenoestogens and came back here to report this and found your recent post.
i have had it in my mind to find an "enlightened" dentist for some time now.
it's something that i have assumed i will do in the future and assumed i will do when i finally relocate to the west coast. i have two cousins who have had great success with a dentist in san fran.
my dentist is great for who he is (sensitive, communicative, gentle etc.) but will not accept that mercury and composites are a problem. he's a teacher at tufts university in boston ... so much for "higher" eductation eh? 
i tend to be in the "when it rains it pours" category ... hit hard on various levels of being at once and this recent dentist visit came right on the heals of a psychic incident that was very fear provoking ("psychically raped" it feels/seems and/or was) and stressed my adrenals in a way that they hadn't been for quite some time. so i was already feeling quite imbalanced and very toxic. i now wish i had waited for a spell before going to the dentist but, ah well, another crisis to wake me up some more.
thank you again for your help.
Azure |
Ingrid
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 10:34 pm: | |
Azure,
This is a personal response to your personal disclosures. I do not go to dentists when I feel vulnerable because I am afraid that the vortices in my aura might suck in something really troublesome. You see, the typical dentist out there is a technician, not a healer. He is trained to perform work in a particular way. Obviously, skills vary tremendously, but the spectrum of what can go wrong is enormous so I do not go to dentists when planets are retrograde, when I feel defenseless, or when I am worried that my body cannot deal with the toxins they introduce. For instance, I have yet to be in a dental office that was really hygienic. The dentist wears rubber gloves and the tools on the tray from which he is taking instruments have been sterilized, but he reaches over to turn up the volume on the stereo wearing the gloves that were in my mouth, but the last time he touched the knob, he was wearing gloves that had been in someone else's mouth. I know that dentists can't deal with all my issues and remain focused so I have to boost my immunity terrifically to deal with their carelessness. Sometimes it takes months for the side effects of a single office visit to wear off. This doesn't make the dentist a bad dentist; it's just very hard to jump up and down with excitement when someone is as aware as I am . . . and as you seem also to be. So, I share this with you for what it is worth. |
Ingrid
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 03:54 pm: | |
Interestingly, last night a dentist in Santa Fe called. We were just exchanging information on our latest discoveries, interests, and projects.
He mentioned that recent studies show that all dental materials are radioactive. He is working with something called "reverse homeopathics" that he says gives relief in seconds. Obviously, you are not going to be able to find anyone familiar with this by searching the yellow pages, but what I find happens is that if I bring a study to my dentist and ask him to read it, he often follows up, enrolls in a seminar, or calls a few colleagues to see if he can find out more.
What was expressed last night is that this particular dentist hopes to reach a point in which the patient is equipped to deal with the traumas and side effects of dental work so that dentists can use what is available to them and do what they need to do without harming the patient. For this, they will rely on their ability to shift the energetics so that the normal toxic reaction is mitigated by the reversal of energetics.
As you know, no matter how good the idea is, it will be ages before the requisite studies are done and then even more years before enough people are trained in the new methods so that we can really see the difference in patients. |
Azure
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 11:26 am: | |
oh i love this message. i just read it now and ... how wonderful.
last night, unable to sleep, i went into some very deep energetic work ...
working energetically with the toxic reactions ... i work intuitively/instinctively and it's great to see this sort of confirmation.
hmmmm, i used to live in Santa Fe. the boston area is, as i'm sure you know, high in intellect but it's not easy to find alternative practitioners in the area. slim pickins. conversely, we don't have as many nuts running around  as santa fe or parts of the west coast but i prefer sifting through the nuts to not having much choice at all.
Ingrid, my e-mail is questionable lately ... i use a yahoo mail box and can get into one day and not the next.
can i get the name of the Santa Fe dentist from you? if so, can you post it here or should i e-mail you and hope that i'll be able to open my mail (eventually, i can ... at least so far)
please let me know.
thank you,
Azure
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Azure
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 11:32 am: | |
one more thing ... i came here this morning to ask one question, then read your post and forgot to ask it.
i'm wondering if this bad taste in my mouth that i think is related to the dentist visit is a direct experience/taste-sensing of the composites? or is it systemic toxicisity caused by the composites but not the composites themselves that i'm tasting? is it the liver's reaction that i'm tasting? in other words ... lol ... what the %$&# (pardon me) is this taste?
sorry, i'm not very scientifically oriented. |
Ingrid
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 01:54 pm: | |
Azure,
I once asked a dentist this question and he said, "Oh, you have cancer." If was the dumbest response I ever got from anyone and when his office sent out a feedback form, I wrote that I found his bedside manner irresponsible and unbefitting someone who claims to be holistic.
Basically, the fillings themselves are not stable much less inert. Composites also contain caustics, acids that attack the calcium in the teeth. I found this out from a dentist who doesn't like composites. So, when the pH in your mouth is also caustic, which is necessary if there is bacteria, then the fillings leech more and obviously deteriorate faster. The fillings are a bit more stable when the mouth chemistry is within slightly more normal ranges, but the composites do have a taste, kind of like plastic.
The mouth, especially the tongue, absorbs what it can, but which comes first, the liver distress or acidic pH, I don't know. If you paint an herb like bloodroot or garlic on the bottom of the foot, you will taste it in seconds or minutes. The body is a complete system, not a bunch of disconnected parts.
Oh, for the record, I haven't lived in Santa Fe for two years now, but I loved it and miss it. |
Azure
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 02:58 pm: | |
Well, if I'm undersanding what you are saying, it makes sense given that there are a number of reasons, leading up to the dental work that would have created
1- a more acidic enviroment in my system and
2- an increase in candida and/or other bacteria.
in other words, my chemistry was even more out of whack than it usually is coinciding with this most visit to the dentist.
I'm assuming that the name of the dentist is a "secret"? That's fine ... just making sure it wasn't an accidental omission.
Thank you,
Azure |
Ingrid
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 03:52 pm: | |
I don't post names online but occasionally do so when their is a private inquiry. |
Azure
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 08:13 pm: | |
Ahh, i see. thank you for letting me know. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 01:07 am: | |
I've been researching the negative effects of the use of composite. I've heard that it releases estrogens but I can't seem to find any information on this subject. What can you tell me about it? |
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