|Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 03:50 pm: |
I was hoping that someone could answer my question. I have been experiencing abdominal pain for the past several weeks and occasionally it is very accute. I have had bouts of GERD on and off for the last couple of years so I am pretty sure it isn't related to that. After reading most of the posts here it sounds like I could have gall stones. However, the pain that I am experiencing is located under my left ribs and not the right side which seem to be where everyone else experiences them. Is there another organ that could be causing this or is it possible that I am having an odd occurance of gall stones. The bloating is generally just below my chest and the pain is definately right at the spot of my last rib on the left side about an inch from the center. Any help would be greatly appreciated. (I will probably have done the flush by the time you reply).
|Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 11:20 am: |
|Posted on Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:17 pm: |
I'm into week 6 without coffee and, except for
occasional cravings, doing fine. I'm still taking
12 Stone Free capsules a day and have lost about
10 pounds in the last 6 weeks after my trip to the
ER. I'm avoiding fatty foods and a few other
things I know are a problem for me. Also trying
not to eat anything between dinner and bed time.
I realize weight loss has nothing to do with all
this but, in general, my gastrointestinal life is
looking brighter all the time.
For the first four weeks (at least) of my ordeal,
I had occasional pains in both sides. The ones on
the left seemed the most distressing. My
intestines were obviously unhappy about the
overall situation. The abdominal bloating someone
mentioned above afflicted me as well. The Stone
Free took care of that almost overnight. After
taking it for a couple days I had to ask my wife
if I looked "smaller" and she agreed.
All in all, I'm trying to approach the ordeal as
a learning experience and as an opportunity for
improvement. So far, I'm QUITE pleased with the
On a related note, does anybody know anything
about how calcium relates to the gall bladder
situation. I've read that the stones are
sometimes made up mostly of calcium and can be
(paradoxically) an indication of a calcium
deficiency. The big fans of calcium make some
rather fantastical and exuberant claims about its
|Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:39 pm: |
You sound better, still a little battle weary, but seeing light at the end of the tunnel?
Calcium is one of the most paradoxical trace minerals. It deposits in many places, suggesting that assimilation is poor, metabolism weak, or consumption excessive. In addition to these possibilities, I have learned that there are calcium deposits where there are parasites. What I don't know is whether the body layers the calcium to prevent perforation or the parasites excrete something. I have seen pictures taken inside the body in which the calcium walls are enormous. They would obviously prevent assimilation if they occurred in a critical place. I think the reason so many natural healers use apple cider vinegar and lemons and such is that they want to address these calcium deposits.
|Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:59 am: |
Did the flush help your symptoms? I'm having "EXACTLY" the same problems myself. Quite excruciating. My first bout sent me to the ER, where they didn't do much and I started feeling better after being there about 30 mins. I was hit with it again last night around 11pm and it lasted until about 1am. I could feel it coming on and decided to ride it out as I can't really afford another ER trip.
My pain starts about in the center of my abdomin directly below my rib cage and proceeds to bother the area directly below my left rib (still feels a little "tight" right now). The "cramps" come and go in waves, and my extremities get very cold (assuming a loss in circulation).
I've recently lost a LOT of weight. 55 lbs since April 27th (right now it's July 30th). I had some bloodwork done at the beginning of my diet back in April and the Dr. said my Triglycerides were around 450! When they should be around 150. I'd been taking glucophage through mid June, but haven't taken any over the last few weeks.
My last bout of cramps came about 24 hours after binging on junk food (chili dogs, fries, pizza, and donuts - good god that looks bad once I write it out). I believe first onset about 2 weeks ago was similar as I came off the diet for the holidays and again binged on junk food (although I'm still losing weight).
If you could let me know what your diagnosis was, it would be much appreciated.
|Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:52 pm: |
This does sound "bad." I hope you will pursue a proper diagnosis so that you know exactly what you have going on in your body.
|Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:31 pm: |
I had my gallbladder removed last November (2001). Recently, I have had pain that feels EXACTLY like the pain I felt when I was having the gall stone attacks. Scary stuff....has anyone else experienced this? If so, what is reccommended for treatment. My doctor has me on a prescrition "Zantac" for acid stomach problems. No attacks since but I really don't feel it's stomach related. Can I have a stone in my bile duct?
|Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 12:01 am: |
Well, I tried the Gallbladder flush last night and into this morning. Holy cripes, I never knew I had that kind of stuff in me. I must have passed a couple hundred gallstones, some up to the size of a nickel. Most were BB sized, but I still feel much much better. I still have a doctor's appointment tomorrow morning to see if it's specifically gallstones that were giving me the cramps. Hopefully the flush cleaned it out.
Thanks for all the info guys. It's been much appreciated.
|Posted on Friday, August 02, 2002 - 12:06 am: |
I just remembered reading something in one of my medical books. Before I precede though, keep in mind, I'm no doctor, or anyone with any medical training whatsoever. I remember seeing something where a gallstone might get caught in the bile duct (forget the exact name), sometimes near the pancreas. It can still remain there after the gall bladder is removed. It might be something to have your doctor look into.
|Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:30 am: |
I am new here but I have the gall blader syntomes, they started 4 months ago. I am living in Japan so I would like to tried the liver flush
but somebody tell me where can I buy Stone Free and Baldo tea
|Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 02:24 pm: |
These are available on this site.
|Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:26 am: |
It's been about 4 weeks since I had a really bad abdominal attack. It occurred several hours after a bowl of ice cream. I experienced pain under the rib cage on the right and a lot of gas and cramping. Fortunately, the pain was not severe. I was in enough of distress, however, to track down a gastroenterologist in the yellow pages, but I couldn't get an appointment for five days. Meanwhile, all that day, I took phazyme like it was candy and made a trip to the health food store for some aloe juice and licorice extract. I felt better by the end of the day, though very tender in the tummy. I also started eating salads with olive oil and lemon juice.
By Friday, the day of the appointment, I was feeling a lot better and only felt tender in the lower right abdomen. When the doctor found out that I had fibromyalgia, he declared it was ibd, even though I didn't have any of the obvious symptoms of ibd. After much prodding he gave me a script to get an ultrasound done and told me to see him in a month.
It was such a hassle to get an appointment to see the doctor and now I had to go someplace else to get the ultrasound done. Since I had already found your site before going to the doctor that Friday, I decided that I should try treating the gall bladder.
I began eating salads with chickory, dandelion leaves, radishes, granny smith apples, candied ginger and walnuts for garnish. I chopped the greens in my food processor and shredded the apples and radishes too. I dressed the salad with 1/4 c of extra virgin olive oil and 1/4 c of lemon juice. I found the salad tastey if time consuming to make.
I would recommend anyone who wants to try this salad to chop the greens finely and shred the radishes and apples. This helps blend the bitter and sweet flavors of the greens, radishes and apples. I found when I ate the salad I felt a lot better. I tried to eat at least one of my "tummy salads" a day. I'm also taking stone free, artichoke capsules, Garden of Life's Primal Defense (probiotic), Udo's Choice Enzyme, citrucel and extra C with each meal.
I'm feeling much better these days and can share the occasional french fry with my daughter and not have a lot a gas and indigestion. I haven't tried downing the olive oil and lemon juice straight yet. Can't seem to psyche myself up to drink a cup of oil.
Although, I still have a long way to go and still need to work on my diet and eat more raw veggies and fewer processed carbs, I am eating a lot less meat these days and discovered a tasty new meal for breakfast. This morning I sauteed some green onions and raisins in some olive oil. I then threw in some left over ludenberg aromatic brown rice and tumeric and candied ginger. I didn't even miss the butter or sour cream (two of my weaknesses).
BTW, I'm not going back to see the doctor and I never got my ultrasound. After reading many posts to this site, I realize how lucky I am that my symptoms weren't worse. I hope the things that I've added to my diet (ie "tummy salad" and various pills, in addition to the stone free -- artichoke, probiotics) will be of use to someone else.
Your website is fabulous, thank-you for being such a valuable resource.
|Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 10:07 pm: |
You made me hungry! Keep us posted of what unfolds.
|Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:33 am: |
I am from Australia and I have found your site very informative.
I discovered that a have gall stones after having a painful attack after eating pizza one night folllowed by another attack a week later from eating donuts at night. I had an ultrasound and I have two gall stones each 1.4cm in size.
I don't want to have my gall bladder removed.
Do you think I should do the 3 day (apples only) fast followed by the oil/lemon juice or should I take the Stone Free first? Is Stone Free available in Australia? I am worried that the gall stones might be too large to flush them out. What do you think?
|Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:23 pm: |
Did you read everything others posted? You should definitely be able to pass these, but why not do what you can with the apple juice, radishes, boldo tea, and whatever else you can find in Australia. Stone Free is probably not available in Australia but it usually gets through customs.
|Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 02:23 pm: |
I have been diagnosed with gall stones and have an appointment with a surgeon. The ultrasound report says that "it is so full that I do not see any bile, only stones. The gall bladder is almost completely full of stones." The CT Scan revealed that there is "peripheral calcification" of the gall bladder that may represent early development of a "porcelain gall bladder" (whatever that is!!).
I have had symptoms for years, but nothing so bad as to send me into surgery. Just a mild pain in the gall bladder area occasionally. Fatty foods are not necessarily the trigger.
I am doing the flush now (1:00 pm now; I took the olive oil last night) with no stones expelled. I did it about three years ago with similarly poor results. Any thoughts on why the flush is not working?
I wonder if I may have parasites. Does anyone have a suggestion for a "parasite flush"?
|Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:38 pm: |
Have you heard of adding coca cola to the olive oil tonic? My chiropractor says this is needed for the flush to be effective.
|Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 01:52 am: |
There are a whole lot of people these days recommending the cola, but it is not true that it determines whether or not the flush will be effective. What we sometimes discover is that the results are delayed for a day, once in a rare while for two days. In a few cases, the person truly needs to take Epsom salts and rest on the side with the legs pulled up towards the chest, to stretch the ducts. When this is the case, there is spasm.
When I read a mountain of books on parasitology, really fascination reading by the way, there were photographs that showed massive calcium walls. It was unclear whether the body robbed calcium to build the walls to prevent perforation or whether the parasites excreted something. One of the photographs sent to me by a man who works with a lot of Amish people shows a fluke going right through the middle of a cholesterol stone.
When we are trying to dissolve calcium deposits, we use lemon. I might note that I have seen formulas for the olive oil and lemon juice that more or less cover the gamut. I have seen recipes calling for as many as nine lemons (to 12 oz. of olive oil) and as few as one.
The people who have had dramatic results have often started with gallbladders that are full. A few people have repeated the fast at weekly intervals and continued to pass more and more stones for two months. Eventually, they cease to see more, but usually they have to repeat the fast again in a few months. They say that there is no understanding as to why some people create stones more than others. Obviously, the propensity differs, but I do think diet matters also.
Keep us posted and good luck!
|Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 04:36 am: |
My chiropractor tells everyone to use a laxative the morning after taking the olive oil & lemon. He recommends magnesium citrate. Do you think this is really necessary??
|Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 11:30 am: |
There are so many variations of the flush. It's impossible to be in agreement with everyone. I have never heard of anyone needing a laxative. This said, some people are eating massive amounts of whipped cream, some are taking orthophosphoric acid (similar to coke but even worse in my opinion), and some are sabotaging the flush by eating too soon afterwards.
My suggestion is to read what others have written because these people have actually tried something and reported.
|Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 12:05 pm: |
Thank you, Ingrid. Your comments are a breath of fresh air.
I am also wondering about the benefits if including Epsom salts in the flush routine. What does it do to help the process?
|Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:11 pm: |
The Epsom salts reduce spasm. Depending on the person, this could be a non issue or quite uncomfortable.
The best way to visualize this is that what many are reporting is that once the gallbladder has dumped its load (which involves "coughing" out stones), it will fill up again with stones that were backed up. This could go on and on, sometimes for 3-5 flushes. So, the early phases tend to be a bit dramatic . . . as you can tell by what others have posted.
|Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:31 am: |
I am trying to shop and buy the Stonefree and other stuff, but can't find it -- have you stopped selling it? (and if so, where can I get it), or am I doing something wrong? I went to the alphabetical list and Stonefree is not in there. Help!
|Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 01:53 am: |
I complement you on having such a vast knowledge in Eastern medicines. Since you have years of experience practicing the same in the West too, would you please enlighten me on few questions I have on Ayurveda and Chinese medicine?
What do they do in these practices to soften or break large gallstones? What about those intrahepatic stones, and how can those be flushed? How helpful are these Chinese herbal medicine such as “Chinese Gentian” and “Bupleurum” commonly known as “Chinese Bitters”? Is it helpful in decongesting the liver?
What about “Gold Coin Grass”? (botanical name: Herba Lysimachiae and Chinese name “Chin-chien Tsao”) Is it effective in breaking the gallstones in to small pieces?
In Ayurveda does “Amlaki” (Emblica Officinalis or Myrobalan) help soften or dilute gallstones? If used as decoction made of dried fruit? Would this fruit help any way for Gallstone problem or would it make things worse?
I have been suffering from gallstone pain and had done two Olive oil/Lemon flushes with the Epsom salt protocol, and passed possibly only one small stone, on my first flush and none in the next.
|Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 02:52 pm: |
You are quite right in seeing gentian and bupleurum in the context you wrote, i.e., liver decongestion. Gentian, by the way, it the main herb in Angostura Bitters so it is not exactly exotic!
I'm not as much of an expert in Chinese medicine. I know some of the philosophy and some of the herbs, but I'm more comfortable with Ayurvedic medicine . . . and Native American herbs.
This said, it is my understanding that some of the side effects attributed to major liver decongesting herbs would have the effect of promoting the flow of bile . . . which, in turn, would aid digestion, emulsification, and parasite elimination. In other words, it is the bile itself that does much of the work.
Gall stones may be bilious or cholesterol-type stones but most people doing the flush see both types (green and whitish-yellow) when the flush works. This said, you wrote that you have pain. It is not clear from this that the pain is necessarily caused by stones. Are you sure?
|Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:02 pm: |
Thanks for this wonderful website, I have just spent several hours reading it and the postings. It has given me hope!
After my gallbladder pains became more frequent and prolonged I have had an ultrasound scan that has revealed (at least)2 stones, one "quite large". Naturally, I would like to keep my gallbladder (my GP has advised removal), and was delighted to find the information on the gall bladder flush.
I have one question which I have found mentioned only in one former posting - and in that case I didn't fully understand your reply. My question is why is the flush not unbearably painful? My attacks (the last two have lasted over 12 hours) have been brought on by eating fatty food. I can only imagine that downing large amounts of olive oil would bring on a gigantic attack that doesn't bear thinking about.
In your reply to a similar question you said that it is the quality of the oil that is important (bad oil brings pain, good quality oil used in the flush doesn't). But surely the pain comes from the gall bladder squeezing against a blockage (the stone)? not from the oil. You also mentioned that the oil lubricates the passage of the stones, but surely the oil goes nowhere near the bile duct? (it will be in the intestine).
Please take these questions in the spirit they are intended, I really am quite excited at the prospect of trying the flush if I can sort out these doubts.
Many thanks again, also to all those who have shared their experiences here.
Richard (from England)
|Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 02:01 pm: |
well, All I know is that when I have done it , It really did not hurt. I try to think of why, and in my mind it is more to do with the backing up of the liquid bile and the painful "swelling" of the galbladder , due to the stones blocking the drainpipe so to speak.In my own experience, it feels like when you eat something that triggers an attack,what is happening is that the body is saying " need to digest fat, dump some bile" but being the drain is clogged it just whimpers along untill it finally drains out.causing a long attack.When you do the flush the body does something different . it says "Ok museles.push.push push all exits open wide, ok bile, get flowing,"....and it works. Another way to look at it is imagine that your sink is stoped up and when you fill your sink the water took a long time to drain.Now imagine that you could hit a switch that would make the drain elastic and it opened up a little and wiggled around. It would drain a lot faster , and posibly take some of the clog with it. All I can figure is that when your body is flooded with oil,your body hits that switch....., It brings out additional forces so to speak....It has been my experince that I can feel the galblader move.Over and over again.Normaly I do not feel my gallblader at all, let alone jumping around of it's own accord. But it is a reaction akin to other reactions of the body.like your arm jumping back when you touch something hot.In other words the body is doing an additional reaction to the flush .Not just the same old routine.And as it does not hurt to flex my arm and twist it around , it has not hurt when my galbladder "jumps around" and flexes. And it must take a certain amount of oil to provoke that reaction, much like your the fact that your hand does not jerk back automaticaly at everything it touches. Ok... Hope this helps...I just know in my own experience ,this is what it feels like and it does not hurt me when I do it. You have to take your own risks...... I had nothing to lose because I was a few days from surgery. I stll have my gallblader and I feel great.
|Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:59 pm: |
Thanks for the prompt answer. What I have is a tightening feeling. Soon after eating dairy products or in fact most any food, I get a pressure or a tightening feeling, just where my gallbladder is. It is not a pain as such, some of my other symptoms are very much inline with gallstones and congested liver problems.
All this started when a few months ago, for a urinary infection my GP prescribed me Ciprofloxin (Cipro), a very powerful antibiotic. After completing that dosage in about 10 days, I developed an acute pain on the right side of my lower ribcage. It continued for about 6 days and was worst in the morning as I woke up. After taking ECG, lipid profile tests etc. my GP said what I have is GERD and gave me prilosec for about a week. Since there was no improvement, the next week he put me on Prevacid for 8 weeks and then on Nexium for 6 months. During the same time I had some cramping like pain in the stomach. So the Doctor checked me for H.Pylori too by doing an EGD and that was negative. After this torture I realized that my GP is blindly treating me and decided to take care of my self.
Ever since the Cipro treatment I noticed that there is a change in my metabolism. I told this too to my Doctor, for which he said it a good sign. This change was so strange that I become very hungry with in 2 hours of eating my meals, particularly after my lunch and dinner. Some time I woke up in the middle of the night 3pm or 4pm and feel very hungry. Often while sleeping I also felt a liquid flushing like sensation. As if some hot water or some enzyme is excreted from the upper part of my liver, some time I hear a sound like bubbles foaming in that region. Funny as it may sound, I have heard of “hot flushes” for women, but obviously I cant relate to that. I started loosing some weight gradually. Also all along this time I had severe shoulder pain and some lower back pain for no explicable reason. Started getting hives just above my eyebrows. Started getting ear aches, flatulence, gas and bloating. So I did some research and realized that my shoulder pain and back correspond to gallbladder meridians. My ulcer like symptoms and gas and bloating are very much said to be associated with Gallstone problems. The pressure like feeling soon after meals, particularly after my dinner in the gallbladder area was ever so increasing. It is around then I learned about the lemon/olive oil flush.
I did three flushes, first two with Epsom salt and the last with apple juice fasting for two days and taking a mixer of larger amount of grapefruit juice and olive oil every 15 minutes for two and a half hours. The first flush expelled about 30 pea size stones, and the next two did nothing. But soon after the three flushes I felt my energy level going up very high for about couple of days and retuning to same fatigued level. I recently took an x-ray and an ultrsound, both did not show any stones. Now I have lost about 15 pounds from 170 to 155lb and can feel that there is some tightness in my gallbladder. In the last 2 years since I have had this symptoms I have progressively adjusted my life style and has become a vegetarian for the last 18 months. I am completely sugar free for the last 5 months. I am totally free of fried foods. Due to these type of adjustments my discomforts around the gallbladder area have temporarily subsided. But I can still feel the pressure after dinner every night.
So Ingrid, This is why I ventured in to Gold Coin Grass and Chinese Bitters Etc. So coming back to one of my original questions, In Ayurveda does “Amlaki” (Emblica Officinalis or Myrobalan) help soften or dilute gallstones? If used as decoction made of dried fruit? Would this fruit help any way for Gallstone problem or would it make things worse?
Or is there any other Ayurvedic medicine that could dissolve gallstones that you know?
Thank you Ingrid,
I also found the following in a Q&A site that is not much helpful as the details are not sufficient.
Is it possible to cure/remove gallbladder stone without surgery ? How long it will take for complete cure? Advice some diet tips also. Which is the specialised siddha hospital in Tamilnadu?
Yes, Removing gall bladder stones is possible with Siddha Medicines, no need for any Surgery. The Duration of removing stones is 15 days to 2 months period , depending on the age and nature of the body. Well experienced Siddha practitioners are giving full treatments throughout Tamil Nadu. No specialised hospital for that. We are also doing the same safely. Use the juice of the stem of the plantain tree regularly at morning before food. Use it with boiled cumin water always which will reduce the urinery irritation.
|Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 05:44 pm: |
After an ultra sound the doctor diagnosed me with gall stones, he also said they could not get a clear reading of the gall bladder as it looked as if the wall of my gall bladder had collapsed, and said that the gall bladder was not functioning properly. Whilst doing the ultrasound he kept asking me if I was sure I had not had anything to eat recently, which I had not, can you please explain all this to me please.
|Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:10 pm: |
No, I can't explain this; you have to ask the doctor for an explanation.
Also, Anthony, it wasn't me who answered you so promptly . . . if the truth be known, I am still thinking.
This much I want to say, those who have done the flush often have to repeat it because the stones kept sliding down to fill the recently vacated space. Normally, three flushes completes the removal of stones for those who have that many.
|Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:29 pm: |
Now, I read the second post. Ugh! You have been to medical circus!
First, the antibiotics. I don't know how it is in the UK, but here, very few doctors remember to tell their patients not to consume dairy products while taking antibiotics. Even fewer tell them that the antibiotics will kill off friendly bacteria so they need to re-establish those populations with probiotics after the antibiotics (pro and anti). A lot of your symptoms could be the result of die off, especially die of the friendly flora.
It's hard to say at this point what would be most helpful, but I'd probably start with the intestines.
Amla? I don't know how it would impact you. Try some chyawanprash and you'll find out.
As for cumin, it is a marvelous spice, but I don't know about its relevance to your situation. You are exploring. Do keep up the quest and let us know where it leads.
|Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:58 am: |
Thanks for your posting, what you say makes some sense. I guess the amounts of oil taken in the flush may well make the gall bladder "open up" in a way that it doesn't when a "normal" fatty meal is eaten - as you suggest.
|Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:28 pm: |
This past Sunday night I had to go to the ER with pain. It was diagnosed as gall stones, with one being stuck in the "neck" of the gall bladder. Immediate admittance to the hospital and surgery was recommended. They gave me one Vicodin and another pill for nausea. I came home. I did the flush with olive oil and lemon on Monday night, with great results. I have not had any pain since Sunday night. I am off all fat and feel like I am starving, but am scared to eat much. I ate some turkey, whole wheat bread, and banana. I would like to know if any one has chanced eating a meal so soon after having the attack, and doing the flush? I would also like to know specific foods to abstain from, other than fat and spices. Thanks in advance for your answers.
|Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 01:45 am: |
Were it me, I'd abstain from all refined foods, including sugar, pasta, and bread; all prepared foods, such as foods that come in cans or that are frozen; all foods that have been cooked once (and you are tempted to reheat); and all food that has been microwaved.
You won't starve. You can have soups, baked squashes and potatoes, salads, fruit, vegetables, and seaweeds plus some protein, but be careful here. I think the easiest to digest protein is seitan. You cook it like meat, but the reason it is easy to digest is that it is fermented.
Congratulations and continued good luck!
|Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:19 pm: |
I've just finished my first two bottles of the Stone Free. I usually take 9 a day. I started out with 12 a day, but as they do have an effect on the bowels, I dropped down to 9 so that my stools are not so loose and I'm not in the bathroom all day. I'm working my way up to an actual flush.
I had no gall bladder symptoms (such as actual pain) prior to starting the Stone Free. The most noticeable difference other than more regular bowel movements is clearer vision, especially at night. I have horrible vision, including a fairly severe astigmatism. Ingrid, I know you wrote somewhere on this site that vision is connected to the liver, and that even cases of astigmatism can be cured by liver cleansing. Is there a specific protocol involved to improve vision, or is it simply clean the liver and improved vision follows? I also want to add that the improvement in vision are similar to those I enjoyed when I used to take MSM (sulphur). It's odd to think that vision can actually improve, because mainstream medicine chooses to declare that it's a steady downhill process.
Best of luck to fellow cleansers!
PS I have made no dietary changes so far, and am too embarrassed to detail my current diet. Suffice to say the Stone Free is working despite the intake of junk, although I will admit that my meals are widely spaced, and I don't eat more than say 2 meals and a snack every day.
|Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:27 pm: |
Forgot to ask, but thought someone here might know the answer -- I have blood red spots on my skin, the closest thing I can compare them to is to say they look like red moles, although they aren't moles (that I know of). I have quite a few of these on my body and wonder what they are, and which organ they may be associated with. Just want to know what my body is trying to say!
|Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:15 pm: |
After having successfully done 3 gall bladder flushes (once a month) with the epsom salts, olive oil and lemon juice, I have noticed that it has taken me alot longer to recooperate and feel better after the last flush. I don't have acute pain, but there is a bothersome continous pain that I do not know how to get rid of. I am also taking 1 teaspoon of flaxseed oil every day in fresh apple juice. Any idea as to why this might be happening? I am not sure if I should continue the flushes.
|Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 08:26 pm: |
Frankly, I think a lot of people writing about gall stones also have parasites and perhaps other problems as well, but it's hard to know this. The only thing I can ever suggest is to see a practitioner you trust whenever you have a problem that is not resolving in the way hoped.
|Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 06:36 am: |
How can I order Stone free and Boldo tea - your site does not let me do this.
|Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:03 am: |
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this site and in particular Ingrid. It gives me hope that I can survive my Gall Bladder illness without surgery which is very important to me especially as the mother of a 6 week old and a 2 year old.
I have read all the notes posted and still have a few questions for Ingrid
1. How is it possible that olive oil, although a fat does not set off a painful gall stone attack? And does that mean you can also include it in your diet without fear of attacks?
2. How many stone free should I take a day over the 3 months prior to the fast & flush?
3. How soon after the flush is it advisable to eat?
4. Also a more general gall stone question, do you know why it is that a food eaten one day is fine and the next time eaten it sets of an attack? For example this happened with some vegetarian sausages.
5. Finally. Once an attack has begun is there anything anyone has found that relieves the attack? (I intend to try Stone free once I have received it)