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Blueduck
| | Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 04:19 pm: | |
Ingrid,
I have done three liver flushes already, so I think I can wait until after the parasite cleanse to do another liver flush. I think this is what I will do, unless I start to have gall bladder symptoms again while I am doing the parasite cleanse, in that case, I would do the gall bladder cleanse at the same time. Thanks for your support. |
Blueduck
| | Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 04:27 pm: | |
Ingrid, I am not going to take the Stone Free while I am taking the parasite cleanse. I have had the Stone Free for a while and have only taken a few of them, and have not started to take them on a regular basis yet. I took a few after I did a liver flush and had pain in the gall bladder area the day after the flush. I did take Chinese Herbs to soften/crush stones before the second and third flushes....I did not have the Stone Free yet and was desperate to avoid gall bladder surgery. The Chinese Doctor does not read English very well and she told me that she did not know anything about the Stone Free, that is why I did not take it yet. I am now off the Chinese herbs, that is why I wanted to know if I can take the Stone Free along with the black walnut, wormwood, clove parasite cleanse. |
elle
| | Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 04:54 pm: | |
Dear Ingrid,
I was diaognosed with gall stones about threee weeks ago, by the GP and i had a unltra-sound which said 'multiple small calculii present'. I did the Gall Flush with oil/lemon juice on Friday night - i believe it worked i didn't check the first lot of eliminations but the 3,4,5 etc i did. There was mainly green 'stones' and small rice sized and coloured 'stones. Just wish i had checked the first elimations. I called my GP yesterday and asked for a referral to go for another ultrasound, and i told her why, her response to me was very negative along the lines i had wasted my time and that what had come out was just things stuck in the bowel..... and she wouldn't give me a referral to go back for another ultrasound. Needless to say i was not happy with her response and told her its my body and my money so therefore i would like the referral and thanx for her time. I believe it worked i feel better what i saw was similar to what others on this site and other sites have reported. Is it usual for the mainstream doctors to be so negative about this approach. Regards L. |
louise wilson
| | Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 08:22 pm: | |
i recently required emergency room care and an overnight stay in the hospital resulting from sharp pain beginning in the middle of my back, progressing to the front middle (where the ribs meet), which progressed to a 'crushing' pain in the center of my chest. heart attack was ruled out via blood enzyme tests and thalium(sp?) stress test. they also did a scan of the gall bladder with no confirmation of trouble there. 5 days later i now have terrible indigestion. from reading several other sites as well as this one on gallstones, i don't seem to have classic systems of that either. anyone have some guidance? |
Blueduck
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 05:13 am: | |
Dear L
I will share my experience with you. I had gall bladder attack in September. Went to the ER, where they looked at gall stones on ultrasound and said they say one stuck in the neck of my gall bladder. The ER doctor recommended my admittance to the hospital and immediate surgery. I declined. He insisted that I go to my regular doctor the next day so I did. That doctor told me that I would die if I did not have the surgery. I had the information from this website printed out and wanted to doctor to take a look and he claimed to be too busy. I told him about the cleanse and he said that in his experiece, any kind of oil would cause another gall bladder attack, and he walked out the door. I came home and did the gall bladder/liver flush and got out lots of stones. I then went on about three weeks of chinese herbal medicine for stones. I have done a total of three of these flushes, getting stones out each time. I have been on a low fat diet since the attack. Doctors are in business to make money, especially by doing surgeries, whether these surgeries are necessary or not, it is what they have been taught and that is all they want to do. Alternatives are not existent in the minds of any doctors I have ever seen. I have been told many times that I would die if I did not have so and so surgery. I think that any alternative is better than any surgery, unless it is a life threatening situation, and you know that it is for sure. If it was not for this website I would be missing a gall bladder right now. Thanks INGRID!!
Blueduck |
louise wilson
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 12:16 pm: | |
thanks, Blueduck, i don't even know for sure if gallstones are my problem. but i'm trying the apple/apple juice fast today to see how i feel. i'm going to see my GP today to discuss avenues of investigation. i'm leary of the liver/gall bladder flush, just because i worry about ingesting all that olive oil. i saw another flush that included ground beets along w/the olive oil and lemon juice. anyone ever tried that one?
Ingrid, do you have any comments from reading my symptoms?
thanks,
L |
Blueduck
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 04:49 pm: | |
Dear L,
I have only done the flushes with olive oil and lemon and once I used grapefruit juice and olive oil. Please take a look at another site, not meaning to detract from this site, but at another site there is interaction between people on the forums and lots have years of experience with these kinds of problems. The site is www.curezone.com. Click on forums and choose which one you wish to read and/or post at. Good luck to you in your appointment with your GP. I hope your GP is better than the ones I have been to in the past few years. |
louise wilson
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 04:49 pm: | |
thanks, Blueduck, my GP decided i have reflux and prescribed Prevacid -- i'm taking the meds but hoping for a better answer and will try curezone.
L
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Blueduck
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 05:23 am: | |
Dear L
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Blueduck |
Ingrid
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 11:11 pm: | |
You all are doing really fine without me!
One concern I have is that many people have distress in the gastrointestinal system either because of diet or microwaving of meals. If you learn to recognize the foods you can digest and you prepare them in easily digestible ways, many of the problems will go away. This includes the acid reflux as well as the stones plus probably some other issues like constipation, bad breath, dull skin, and so on and so forth.
All of the spices in the ginger family are particularly helpful in digestion and elimination: ginger, galangal, and turmeric. You can also chew slightly roasted fennel seeds after meals and swallow the juice from chewing (and spit out the gritty seeds once there is no longer any flavor.)
Acid reflux is dangerous because the digestive juices that are necessarily caustic are moving upwards instead of breaking down food. This burns the esophagus. Learning to stop eating when there is no more appetite, avoiding tension at the dinner table, and adding savory spices to meals really helps. |
rosemary barnes
| | Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 12:31 am: | |
HI..When I went to the doctor for advice about surgery after being told that I had gallstones (ultrasound finding), he told me that the one thing I should NEVER do is to have the "flush" that you speak of...he said it could kill a person if the stone popped out and traveled to another organ and got lodged there (that is how I understood the explanation...maybe I am a bit mixed up on exactly what he said could happen. But...one thing for sure: He said the flush could kill}.
Since then I have heard of many successfully doing the flush and have heard of no deaths or even warnings of dangerous circumstances that could occur.
His warning, however, keeps coming back to me.
Have you ever, ever heard of someone dying from this flush?
I feel rather ignorant asking since there are so many glowing reports.
But, IS there any danger?
Wondering before I try it,
Rosemary
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Ingrid
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 12:55 pm: | |
I think we are dealing with the same old dichotomy between what people know from experience and what they have no way of knowing because of lack of experience.
I have discussed this issue with a number of medical doctors, some of whom have seen ruptured gall bladders and thus have opinions based on critical emergency situations that arose due to prolonged neglect of the early signs of gall stones, such as pain.
However, I have never met a single doctor who actually knew anyone who did the flush or who discussed with a holistic practitioner or patient the flush. Read what many have posted and you will see that when follow up assessments fail to reveal the stones, the doctors are rarely (if ever) interested in how the condition they originally diagnosed was resolved.
This said, I personally know of no complications of the flush and none of my colleagues have ever heard of this either. This does not preclude the possibility that a complication could arise in an exceptionally rare situation, but this is a method that has been around for a long time and no matter what one reads or hears, one fails to find the complication that doctors fear.
However, this does not preclude the possibility of complication. What I mean is that even if one person in five million had a complication, it would be a major crisis for that person. This is why I suggest taking the Stone Free, then doing the apple juice fast, and then doing the flush. Many people are bold and jump right in with approaches they have never tried before. While I admire courage, I personally have to err on the side of caution where health is concerned.
What I hear, however, from you is that you can't get your doctor's warnings out of your head. Therefore, rightly or wrongly, you have been warned and perhaps your own subconscious is telling you to play it very safe. I can't ever make a decision for another person. I try not to influence decisions, just present possibilities and assume that those who have the need for more information will seek the information they need and those who are satisfied will act in accordance with their own judgment. Health is a highly individual matter so each must do what seems best in the circumstances each faces.
Good luck. |
Blueduck
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 07:05 pm: | |
Rosemary,
I can understand your fear in trying the flush. I was scared too. I had a horrible gall bladder attack and went to the ER,where (of course) I was told that the ONLY thing to do was immediate surgery.The found a stone stuck in the "neck of the gall bladder". Gave me a vicodin and the pain stopped. I went home. Next morning I went to my regular GP, who told me that I would DIE without the surgery,and he would not even read the information I had with me that I printed out from this site. Well !! I got the oil and the lemons and did the flush that night. I got out lots of stones of various sizes. At the time, as I said I was very scared......what I finally decided was that, since I was a "candidate for gall bladder surgery" anyway, why not just try this gall bladder/liver flush and just see what happens. I have done four flushes so far. The only place that my stones popped out to was my intestines, and then into the toilet the nexy day. If you want to read first hand testimonies from 100's of real people that do the flushes, please take a look www.curezone.com click on forums and click on liver flush. You can post on the forum there too and will get fast replies. Kitchen Doctor is where I learned about the flush, and I want to thank Ingrid again !! Thanks Ingrid! |
Jeane
| | Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 05:52 pm: | |
Hello Ingrid,
Ive been dx with gallbladder stones and have been preping myself with Stone Free this week and tonite start the olive oil tx. Im a little nervouse but having read all the testimonials on this site and on CureZone im hoping this will work as i do not want surgery. So everyone say a prayer for me that this will be sucessful and i will come back on Sunday and let you know what happened.
Thanks for all the information on your site.... was very helpful.
Jeane/Melbourne Florida |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 11:42 pm: | |
Om parashaktiyi namaha! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 01:33 pm: | |
Hi
I was just told by my doctor that I probably have gall-bladder problems and will need surgery. I was thrilled to find this site, since I am not interested in losing any of my organs if I can help it.
I feel very lucky because my symptoms are mild - one 10 minute attack of chest pains - that sent me to the ER in panic, and some increased gas the last couple of weeks. If the tests show it is gall-bladder problems, I'd like to begin with a mild fast - three days of apple juice. The olive oil/lemon seems extreme. Also, I do not understand how that could be good, since fat is one of the major causes (as I understand it) of gall-bladder problems. Could you please explain why an olive oil fast is good. I am also thinking of taking the Stone Free tablets.
If the doc says it is my gall-bladder, and the symptoms are recent and mild, what do you suggest I start with?
Thank you so very much for having this site.
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Ingrid
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 11:40 pm: | |
I think you already answered these questions for yourself?
People do not seem to absorb the olive oil. It mainly passes through. |
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