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Kishore
Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 04:20 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,
I have recently been diagonized with gall bladder stone. I have one stone about 3cm long and several small ones. I doctor said the only way to fix it is to take the gall bladder out. I am very hesitant to do that. I want to try the olive oil and lime flush but am concerned that the big stone might get stuck. Can you or someone on this board tell me if a 3cm stone can be flushed or it too big.
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Ingrid
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 09:34 pm:   

Why wouldn't you want to dissolve the stone slowly and carefully before doing the flush? This would be the way to minimize risk.
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Kishore
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 06:08 pm:   

I have tired olive oil and lime flush and it worked like a charm. I think I got the big one out but I am not 100% sure because it appears to have broken in to two pieces. Only a new ultrasound will confirm. I also passed a lot of small stones. Thanks Ingrid.
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Ingrid
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:57 am:   

Let us know what they see. Many people suggest repeating this several more times.
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Anne, Scotland
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2004 - 06:24 pm:   

Some time ago I posted my husband's story about abdominal pain and liver flushes. The last post advised how, after doing the flush for a second time, seemingly without effect, he was then admitted to hospital urgently with jaundice. I am pleased to let you know that he is now, after many months, clear of the jaundice and has never had any further discomfort. Since his scans etc. in hospital never revealed anything we can only assume that the flush did actually shift something which may have passed by the time he was x-rayed. Anyway, we now use olive oil as a matter of course for all foods which require to be fried and everything else gets grilled. Also, cutting out cakes, sweets etc. has also led to a weight loss of around 30lbs so far. What a difference a year makes!
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Robin Reed
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 08:47 pm:   

I was diagnosed with gallstones a few years back. They said they were the size of peas. Lately my symptoms seem to be getting worse. This morning I took 1 1/2 cups of olive oil and 2 lemons. Had a bit of diarrea today, but no stones have passed. I did lay in bed this afteroon on my right side with my leg pulled up. Do you think something may happen tomorrow. I did not do the fast before starting the flush.
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Ingrid
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 09:22 am:   

Anne,

Sorry for the slow response. I was in Europe and had intermittent internet access, not enough to check my bulletin boards. I simply want to thank you for sharing this information. These long-term follow ups help everyone to process the information and options much more.

Blessings,

Ingrid
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Ingrid
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 09:23 am:   

Robin,

If the stones were small, you might have passed them without noticing . . . or the event could be delayed for a day or two.
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cmangum5
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 09:10 pm:   

I have been diagnosed with Cholencystitis and was directed to have a cholencystecotmy. My history of stones has been well documented. The doctors are concerned about the risk for infection, cancer and blockage, and say that the longer I wait, the greater likelihood of another stone crisis.

I have been taking extra virgin olive oil as a supplement, knowing that it helps lubricate the gall bladder and encourages the releasing of stones, but I don't know if I have time for this route. What do you suggest?
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Ingrid
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 01:26 am:   

None of the posts here are sufficiently encouraging to you?
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just
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 06:27 pm:   

I posted a message ina wrong place, therefore I am repeating it. I am 26yo female. I had baby 9 months ago and last weekend I was diagnosed with gallstones after a visit in ER - I heard that pregnancy can cause stones. I had few attacs in the last 7 months but they all lasted only couple of hours, the last one lasted over 12. For ovious reasons, the surgeon wants to take it out - I kind of believe that everything has its own reason. THe surgeon stated that if I don't have the gallbladder, then I will not form gallstones anymore. I am planning to save my gallbladder - what are the risks ? I am planning to have another baby - we are planning toe get pregnant this coming august/september. What are the risks of the stones giving me trouble when I am pregnant? The surgeon said that if the gallstones were removed I would form new ones in few days.I am seeing a GI doc next week.
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just
Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 05:36 pm:   

hi Ingrid
I was doing some research about gallbladder stones and I am confused. I am not supposed to eat fats, so I don't get an attack, but if I don't eat fat, then the gallbladder doesn't get stimulated and I can form more stones. What should I eat? Another question - what should I do if I get an attack? I hate taking Vicodin - it only makes me "float" and doesn't really relieve the pain. Lastd question: If my pregnancy caused my gallstones, what are the chances of me not forming them when I am not pregnant? More and more people keep telling me to take the gallbladder out, but I have faith in you and this website, so as long as I am not hurting I want to find out all my options?
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just
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 09:19 am:   

I went to see the GI doc, and he said to remove my gallbladder. He said, that nothing works to dissolve them,and if I try to pass them there is a high risk of the stone getting stuck in a duct and causing major problems, some even requiring a big surgery. He said that the small stones are acually the dangerous ones, because they can get stuck, the really big ones only u pset our gallbladder, but don't cause blockage. I am honestly confused, I don't want to have a surgery and loose my gallbladder,, but for now I had 3 doctors and many people that had the gallblader removed tell me to get rid of it. I only have this website for some last resort and some hope. please respond to this and other two messages as soon as possible. Thank you
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Tom Stivers
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 09:51 am:   

Hi girls and guys,
My gall bladder was removed 25 years ago. I now experience a dull pain right below my gall bladder scar and also I feel a burning sensation, at times, on the scar. I have only experienced these pains intermittently during the last two years.
It seems that I experience them after I have consumed more alcohol than usual for a period of time (the Holiday season) and when I gain an extra ten pounds or so.
Do you Ingrid or anyone have any suggestions as to what is causing this and what to do about it?

Thank you very much,

Tom




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JessicaV
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 01:29 pm:   

I am 16 years old and I went to the clinic because of pains I was having on my side and he diagnosed it as gas. I got an ultrasound at the hospital and they diagnosed as gallbladder stones. So on theMarch 14th I have to get surgery to remove my gallbladder and the problem with that is that I dont know what food s to eat because im afraid that i will upset my stomach.
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Lissette
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 03:46 pm:   

I had gallbladder surgery less than 1 week ago and I'm confused about what to eat. Complicating my decisions also is the fact that about 12 years ago I had my appendix removed and 4 inches of my intestines also(it burst inside me). I am 37 now and I want to make the right dieting choices for myself now. Please help!!!
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jeff
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 03:39 pm:   

I’m seeking some input from Ingrid and others. It always amazes me what people take on faith without knowing facts. I hear people all of the time talking about how they got the flu or that a doctor diagnosed flu without ever even putting his hand on their forehead (joke) or doing some kind of definitive laboratory test that diagnosed it’s existence. Yet, people have as much faith in the guesswork of doctors as they do with the ministries. I have had 2 doctors suggest I had a gall bladder problem (one a surgeon who wanted to remove it) and also one naturopath. Hide scan was borderline and ultrasound showed nothing. However, I have also had a libratory test that showed the presence of candida at a higher-level two years ago. For years I have had the discomfort below the right rib. Question one: When it gets bad usually after eating, I feel a distinct contraction that is almost as strong as my bicep. What is the specific cause of the strong contraction? I learned after many years that I can expect a bloated reaction to almost any legume, sugar, alcohol (especially with wine or beer.) Fats are bad news. Bloating occurs with regularity after 8 PM. Why? The top thing on my list is not the French fries, its ice cream, eggnog or gravy. I do not have much of a problem with dairy otherwise.
The other day, I encountered what everyone wanted to call the flu (the problem that most people have after they have indulged gratefully at Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner). It occurred after eating gravy (I rarely touch for obvious reasons) and over indulging in sugar (sugars are as bad as gravy for me). I though I would do some lemon juice thinking that I might be experiencing a gall bladder reaction after the wrench tightened below my right rib. The result was excruciating pain and severe bloating that sent me immediately to the bathroom. I was then into serious diarrhea that lasted 4 days with lots of chronic bloating and discomfort and without any sleep. The experience was like Giardia. Clearly this was the worse case of something I ever had with no symptoms of muscle ache, fever congestion, except exhaustion. Was this the flu, gall bladder or a multiplicity of things? How does one know for sure the definitive causes?
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jeff
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 12:08 pm:   

There is something that needs to be understood within this context. If nothing more than the role a gall bladder function with regard to stomach flu. I use to get stomach flu. The past several years, I could have bragged about how I averted all illness simply by watching my diet (sugars & fats) & with eating fiber regularly every morning. I could expertly advertise the advantage of Fiber #1 and yogurt for breakfast. Aside from chronic sinus problems, discomfort below right rib on occassion & chronic bloat at night, I was generally chronically healthy at 58. Now, comes this awful condition that apparently some others around me also experienced. No one diagnosed anything. The doctor told me if I had the condition more than a week that he would consider a culture. I’m not sure if this helps us to fully understanding disease process.
The night of my last message, the bloat began at about 3 PM and continued till I went to bed at 11 PM at which time pains reappeared now excruciating multiple times until I ended up with diarrhea again and up several times in the night again. I would not have believed that the pains would be more severe. But they were (unbearable). Now, the following day at the same time, there was precisely no change. This time as bloat began 3 PM, I decided to do a light modified gall bladder flush. What did I have to lose? I preferred putting my gut into stress early rather than staying up all night in pain again. Considering my sensitive condition & previous reaction. I took a reduced portion of lemon juice (slice) diluted in water with nearly a half a cup of olive oil & lay on the floor. This time without severe pain that I experienced initially (no oil). The bloat gradually began to reduce some. With no pain, I then introduce the rest of the full lemon and lay down. Again, some bloat was reduced. Now (8 PM), the gut was prompted to slowly move the same as the night previous without the excruciating pain again until it was emptied and with little diarrhea. I experienced a few minor cramps with momentary brief sharp pains and went to sleep with no more problems waking up fresh. Now this morning also gut prompted several times to empty out first thing in a much more normal fashion.
I’m not an expert at gall bladder. One could suggest that I just got over stomach flu. However, my experience was that the gall bladder flush intervened with building bloat in such a manner as to suggest that the primary cramping mechanism with stomach flu may be the gall bladder. The difference between first and last experience was a full intestine initially. The oil may have played a role with regard to severity of contraction and altering bloat. There was no bloat at all upon going to bed. Likewise, I have consistently documented in my body a high correlation between sinus and bloat over several years. One symptom is often occurring with the presence of the other and disappearing at the same time. Also, I have consistently documented that fat and sugar in my body are no different with regard to cause of bloat. It is simply a matter of how much or accidental combination of the two that leads to the severity of bloat. Though, I have not pinned down how this works. Both sugar and fat have been identically lethal to my gut. The unfortunate part is having no clear diagnosis of cause. Therefore, this is all speculation and taken on faith. That is the problem of physicians or naturopaths not having a systematic linked database for storage of all symptoms with every client they see to help us with a greater understanding of cause and effect. Imagine all of those leaving comments here and all of those who don’t answering specific questions with answers in a central database. All of your questions would have an answer by now if we were more disciplined at data collection. The only problem this would create is an expanding population of healthy people in the world. What to do with all of those people?

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