|Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 12:15 pm: |
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|Posted on Monday, December 13, 2004 - 03:39 pm: |
I have just visted my Doctor, with a soreness just under my right rib. I do not have any severe pain, but do sometimes feel bloated and somewhat Nauseous. He suspects gall stones, although, I am not overweight and do not consider that I eat much in the way of fried food and have never experienced this kind of symptom before. At first I thought I had pulled a muscle in my stomach as it felt painful when I laid on my front. I fell most comfortable when I lay on my right side !Apparently I will have to wait six weeks for an unltrasound ! Would you recommend a flush or wait until I have had a definate diagnosis. I did read somewhere else that it is advisable to wait and see what size the stones are before embarking on a flush in case they get stuck in the Duct. However, from what I have read on your website this never occurs. Many thanks
PS What a great Website
|Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 07:30 pm: |
Hi Ingrid, your website is a real blessing to find, and full of great information. Two months ago I went to the ER - thought I had a bad flu, only the backache concerned me so much - and was diagnosed with gallstone pancreatitis. Received a week of IV antibiotics and they convinced me I needed my gallbladder out. If the doctor had room on his schedule, I would have had it done. As it is, I went home to await a surgery date. Within a day of stopping the Percocet they gave me for pain, my natural guidance system started kicking in and I began to search the web for alternatives to gall bladder surgery. Thankfully your site was near the top of the list and I've been reading it and soaking in the information. My acupuncture physician gave me some GB*6 which is a chinese herbal medicine gall bladder formula, and he also recommended the Stone Free, which I just ordered. In addition to the GB*6, he's doing low level laser light therapy on my gall bladder, spleen, pancreas area.
I, too, was afraid after my hospitalization, to eat any fat at all for weeks. I ate mostly fruit and salad and drank lots of organic apple juice, which did a great job of feeding the yeast infection I got after the antibiotics. It appeared on my thighs, chest and under my breasts like a rash, although I did not have a vaginal yeast infection (yay!) It went away of its own accord within 2 weeks or less. I now eat oatmeal for breakfast, it's low in fat and high in fiber. I like the Scottish oatmeal, it’s very chewy, although I eat the Quaker instant oatmeal as well. I may sprinkle a little Splenda on it, or put a few raisins or dried apricots in it and make it a little soupy. I may drink a glass of apple juice, or a cup of decaf green tea or camomile tea.
A couple of hours later, I may saute some mushrooms and scallions in a nonstick pan, with ginger and fresh garlic, and add some chopped basil leaves, some watercress, some bean sprouts, maybe some spinach either fresh or lightly sauteed. Sometimes I add half a package of Earthbound Farms Organic Herb Salad, lightly sauteed. Then I make a miso broth for it, using golden barley miso, adding some fish sauce, some Bragg’s instead of tamari or soysauce, and some rice wine vinegar and fresh lime juice. Sometimes I put a few noodles in, rice noodles or even Ramen noodles, and eat it with chopsticks. Sometimes I cut up some cooked tofu and add it in.
A few hours later, I may eat a sandwich using one slice of Ezekial sesame bread, toasted dark, spread with dijon mustard, with sliced turkey and mixed greens or spinach, with sweet pepper rings and roasted red peppers. Or I may spread a tomato and basil wrap with some brown rice, vegetarian beans and mixed greens. A few hours later I may eat an apple and some grapes. For dinner a few hours later, I might have some grilled or smoked salmon along with fresh green beans and carrots sauteed in a nonstick pan in fresh garlic and ginger, on a bed of mixed greens and radishes with rice wine vinegar. I have more info about my personal diet at http://horizonsmagazine.com/adm1204.html.
I’d been keeping it below 5 grams of fat a day (way too low, I know) for the first month and staying on a very sparse, mostly fruit and vegetable diet. Then I ate some nuts - walnuts, pecans, filberts, almonds and Brazil nuts, just a few each on an empty stomach, and suddenly I felt very nauseous and bloated and began sweating, and I was afraid it was going to be déjà vu all over again with the gallstone/pancreatitis. The fear of what might happen next was much greater than what was actually happening to me, which was just my gallbladder contracting after eating the ultra high fat nuts. 30 minutes later I vomited and was immediately fine again.
I'm learning that staying healthy means changing from my formerly high fat and red meat diet, to a low fat and high fiber diet. I'm eating lots more fruits and vegetables and trying to keep chicken and turkey at a minimum. I eat a salad twice a day. I add no oil yet, but am about ready to begin adding a little olive oil to my salads. i've been using flavored vinegars. I eat no junk food, no processed food except bread, no sweets other than fruit. I just discovered Land O' Lakes Fat Free Half and Half and it's very good. Publix carries it. I pour a little on oatmeal, baked potatoes, butternut squash. I add a little to fat free cream cheese to make it smoother and tastier.
For low fat meat alternatives, I tried Yves The Good Deli vegetarian salami and it's not bad. I also tried Light Life's Smart Ground Taco/Burrito mix and liked it. My favorite non-meat right now is baked tofu. I buy the Nasoya Low Fat Extra Firm Tofu and I freeze it overnight or longer. After it thaws, you place it between 2 plates and squeeze all the water out of it, and it will be like a sponge. Then I slice it into rectangles about ¼" thick and place it in a shallow pan in which I've mixed equal parts of fruit juice - apple, pineapple - and barbeque sauce (many brands have no fat) and teriyaki sauce (no fat content). I don't soak them in this marinade, rather I put in enough to let one side soak it up and the other side get a little on it too. Then I spray a nonstick baking pan with no fat olive oil spray, and place the slices on the sheet. Then I sprinkle some nutritional yeast on top of each one. I buy it in a small bulk package at the health food store and put it in a plastic shaker and shake it on most foods. It's especially good on greens and gives a rich, cheesy taste and lots of B vitamins. Bake in a 325 degree oven for 20 minutes on one side, and 10 minutes on the other side. I like to eat them either plain, or cut them into salads, but mostly in a sandwich with Ezekial sesame bread toasted dark, with grainy brown mustard, sliced radishes, sprouts and tomato.
I'm hoping a life change way of eating and taking the Stone Free and aple juice, etc. will keep me healthy. Oh, my gallbladder is healthy other than the hospital visit. Many thanks again Ingrid for a very informative site.
Andrea in Palm Bay, FL
|Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 03:29 pm: |
I dont know where else to post this. I have been to 5 different emergency wards and have seen 12 different doctors and Im told there is no answer. Or I am diagnosed with GERDS and thats definitely not it! I had my gall bladder removed in 1979 when I was 29. I had developed two very large stones...one was 3.3 centimeters. I am now 55. But now I am having very similar pain again. AT first I started having quick onset nausea, then extreme pain in the area of where my gall bladder used to be. The pain is constant, sharp, unremitting and intolerable. 46 hours of hard childbirth labor was easier than this if that is any idea what this is like! It can last off and on for 3 days, it can last for 5-6 hours. Ive been scoped, proded, ultrasounded and cat scanned. The only thing that shows is a reddened area around my liver duct. At one hospital Ive been accused of trying to get pain meds and sent packing, even though my pain is evident and my blood pressure is high from the stress. At another hospital they will give me a rather healthy shot of demerol, roll me into an out of the way corner of the ER and check on me, but afer a few hours Im released with just being told to come back if it happens again. (Although my hospital bill on that visit showed I had a barium X ray done. It wasnt.) I do have a regular clinic I go to, but Im just referred to a hospital where it starts all over again. This has been just a night mare! I started a food diary and now know the instigator is fats. If I keep to a non fat diet they generally wont happen. However, going totally non fat is just such a drag and I admit I fail. Sometimes I will have an attack and I simply have to live with the consequences. But I am terrified of going thru that pain again! Ive talked with a psychiatrist who told me that stones can develop without a gallbladder and that my situation is common. He said to tell the dr's what I need is a cholangegram. He also said that this situation can become life threatening if the stones create a blockage where nothing can get thru.
Do you have any insight for me? I was unaware I could still develop stones without a gall bladder! I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me.
|Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 07:17 pm: |
Hi, I have a question. I found Stone free at this web www.herbsmd.com for only $7.00 - is this the exact same thing? It looks this same.
|Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 09:52 pm: |
Hi. I had my gallbladder taken out about 3-4 years ago. I was thinking of doing an herbal detox. I am wondering if any of these herbs could cause problems for me. I have heard not to take certain herbs if you have gallbladder problems, I wonder, since mine is out, would I have problems too? I'll list the ingredients if that helps. Or if there is there anything I just shouldn't take, no matter what? I know they say to ask your physician first, but really, how much do they know about herbs????
|Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 08:27 am: |
Hi Ingrid, This is a fabulous site and I have spent hours reading it. Please tell me if Stone Free will be available to Australia in the future, or where we can buy it from overseas? Thanks so much.
|Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 11:57 am: |
You can order the stonefree from www.herbsmd.com for fraction of the price - it is the exact same thing- same people make it! only $7.
|Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 09:37 am: |
Hi Ingrid, Thank you for running this very informative site. I have been reading some of the posts and I have obtained Stonefree but don't know how long to take it before I do a flush. I have taken 2 tablets x 3 times daily, for 4 days and would like to flush asap. Please could you advise?
|Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 11:53 am: |
I have just had my ultasound scan that has revealed a stone of 1.5cm blocking the bile duct.I was told I had a non functioning gall bladder and it would make no difference if it was removed as it hadn't been doing its job for some time. I asked what the consequences of having such a dysfunctional organ would have been and was told that it would have caused no symptons and not the tiredness that I have been experiencing for some years. I discussed the gallbladder flush option and was told that it did not work. That they had patients bringing in jars of fatty lumps that they had passed believing to be gallstones but when they were re scanned the orignal gallstones were still there. Does anyone have any evidence to the contrary. as I would prefer not to have the op unless necessary.
|Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 03:21 pm: |
Hi there, I had been having a dull ache in the upper right of my back, under my right rib and side since last October. A sonagram showed I have gallstones. My doctor recommended to have it removed. I came across your site and have tried to find out more about the "stone free". I've read it has mainly turmeric in it, but what other ingredients does it have in it? I am on high blood pressure and high cholestrol meds. I don't want to take anything that will effect my blood pressure.
Could you tell me what other ingredients are in here and if it is safe to take with high blood pressure?
|Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 04:05 pm: |
Hi what if your pregnant with gallstones (51/2 months) what should i do, and i can't find anything on what is the best things to eat or to avoid while having gallstones and pregnant? Should I do the flush? Is the Stone free absolutely necessary to have while doing the flush?
|Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 01:32 pm: |
Hi, I have just been advised by my docotor I have Gall Stones. At first I thought the pain was related to the pneumonia I had last September. I would conside myself quiet fit as I walk/run 5-6km every day and play Tennis weekly, I don't eat fatty foods, and I take vitamans daily which consist of 1xsalt 1xOmega3, and 1xIron. I weigh 44kg and am 150cm tall. My questions are should I stop taking my vitamans, and do I have to fast for 5days prior to doing the flush (I certainly don't want to lose any weight)
|Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 03:26 pm: |
Hi, I'm new to this board. How long does it take for someone to answer your questions that have been asked? just wondering, I wrote the other day and see no one has gotten a reply on their questions either.
|Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 04:40 am: |
i hope soon, as mine has not been answered as well
|Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 07:50 pm: |
I apologise if my question has been answered elsewhere. I have read a lot on the site but don't have much time right now to continue. Woud using cod liver oil for the flush be ok? Maybe 2-3 tablespoons? Or would this not be effective/healthy? I don't really fancy drinking oil, yuk, but don't mind cod liver oil.
Thanks for your great site,
|Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 08:41 am: |
I posted 2 weeks ago and still no answers,,hmmm
|Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 06:00 pm: |
Living in Northern Ireland we have the longest hospital waiting lists in the whole of the United Kingdom. I could not wait any longer for the gallbladder surgery which I desperately needed, so I carried out the flush! It worked, and I can honestly say I feel 5 years younger! I was so sluggish before I carried it out, but now feel energised! I will still have the operation, but I now wont have to have months of suffering whilst I face the long wait!
|Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 05:44 pm: |
I have now done 3 flushes and each time passed stones, none big, so my advice would be to do a flush about every month until you are clear. I shall continue flushing until I find no 'stones'.
I am determined to try to avoid having my gall bladder removed if I can get away with it. The consultant I saw in the UK was very keen to operate and seemed to take offence that I did not want invasive surgery, he then more or less washed his hands of me.
I am using advice from Dr Hulda Clark found on curezone.com. Starting with Epsom Salts to relax the 'tubes', I mixed the olive oil with freshly squeezed grapefruit juice instead of lemon juice and blended it in a liquidiser. It was MUCH easier to drink and not nearly such an unpleasant taste. I have also been taking Stonefree because I was worried about blocking ducts.
I read on the web that removal of the gall bladder does not stop the stones forming elsewhere and you also have to be careful with your diet after removal. Hope this helps.
|Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 04:38 pm: |
Thanks, I have done a second flush with lemon juice and olive oil using epsom salts - and I passed larger stones. I then got quite a lot of aching pain around the gall bladder area for several days after. I have since been taking pro-biotic yoghurt drinks and am on a low saturated fat diet. I also did a kidney flush with ginger, garlic, a grapefruit and a lemon. I feel a lot better now, and probably will not carry out a flush for a while! Thanks for your help!
|Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 07:56 pm: |
My 16 year old daughter was just diagnosed with gallbladder disease. Her doctor recomends surgery, which I thought meant removing the stones--not the entire gallbladder. I've been frantically searching the internet for information and am grateful for this sight. I can't fathom removing an organ from someone so young.
My daughter has always had digestive aches and pains. For several years now she has had what I now suspect have been mild gallbladder attacks. Have you ever heard of gallbladder disease happening in such a young person? I don't know how to convince her to do the flush, but I'm going to try. I'm also wondering if the doses in the flush and the Stone Free would be the same?
Any suggestions for dietary changes that would appeal to a teenager? A healthy pizza recipe perhaps?
|Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:33 pm: |
Hi there. I underwent gallbladder surgery when I was 19. I am 31 now. I am sooo glad that I went through with it. I have often wondered if this is hereditary as my grandpa on my mothers side had his out 2 years after I did and then my mother had hers out recently also. For one whole year before having this immediate surgery, I had been complaining of all of the symptoms everyone else has. The doctors told me that I was just having acid reflux in the stomach or something similar so they gave me some Carafate to take. Taking this for a long period of time never made any symptoms go away; just made them worse. Finally one night after many nights of sleeping sitting in my bed with a pillow jammed in my stomach and then going to a recliner in order to sleep and after realizing that crying and rocking was not going to make the severe pain go away; I called the emergency room and went in. They took an ultrasound and found gallstones and blockages. When they removed it they told me that it was a good thing that they did as it was full of white liquid and many tiny gallstones. It was completely rotted. I was worried about having to remove my gallbladder the same as everyone is here as my family is into the healthy way of doing everything and hardly ever considering doctors for treatment. After it was removed there are certain things that I eat or drink that make me run to the bathroom with diarrhea. That is the only side effect that I have had and given the other side effects of keeping that blasted gallbladder I would rather have the diarrhea.
I know that if a diseased gallbladder ruptures the same as an appendix it is lifethreatening. I would be very careful.
Hope that everyone here benefits from my story and YES this pain is worse than delivery as I have two children.
My cousin, Trish, is now going through the same similar symptoms and the doctors are treating her for stomach problems also. Of course I came to her rescue and sorted out her symptoms with her and she is going to get her doctors to listen to her!
|Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 12:29 pm: |
Hi everyone, had an ultra sound that revealed
multiple stones, some measuring 9 mm. Was advised
by doctor that the only method to remove them was
by surgery. Did the gall bladder flush with the
olive oil and lemon juice just a week ago and had
too many stones to count, some I measured to be
1 cm in diameter. My doctor was not impressed and told me that I accomplished nothing. She would not agree to another ultra sound until July.
So, I will do another flush before the ultra sound
and will be curious to see if any stones remain.
Trying to avoid unnecessary surgery. Has anyone
else done the flush followed by an additional ultra sound to determine if any stones remaining?
|Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 02:28 pm: |
I am someone who for years neglected symptoms and pain. After about 2-3 years on high stress related job assignments with no time to excursive and take of myself, I have recently wake up see that I look 10 years older, wake up with pain every morning, feel tired all the time and have no desire to do any exercise. I am attempting new beginning. I have started two weeks ago to go to the Gym, started to go to hot yoga classes and I want to do the Flush. I have not seen a doctor in 2-3 years, but I was diagnosed with gallbladder stones about 5 years ago. From what I am reading on this discussion board my pain symptoms are a bit different. I have pain almost 24/7 but it is not a killer. Constant heaviness with pain under my rib and shoulder and in gets worst when I eat heavy meals. I eat mostly salads and meats. I also developed tendency in the past year to pass gas in the morning and after a meal that is not salad.
I need some direction for the Flush. I have hard time eating fruits and drinking fruit juices. The only juice I like is carrot juice. I know I will not be able to complete 3 days of apple juice fast. Can I substitute that with carrot juice? I am not sure also if the fast is a mandatory, please advice.
|Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 11:44 pm: |
CAN APPLE JUICE BE SUBSTITUTED WITH CARROT JUICE?
|Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 09:16 am: |
I did the olive oil/lemon juice flush and out came round green things up to 1 cm big that are moldable.
Now my question is: how do I know that these aren't just congealed olive oil balls?! Since most likely they are just that.
|Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 01:42 am: |
I have had an ultrasound and have been told that I positively have gallstones. I am only 24. I am very interested in doing the gallstone flush, in fact I just bought the olive oil this evening. I have a customer at my job whose husband is a doctor. She has agreed to take a "stone" and have her husband take it to a lab. I hope that the gallstone flush works and that I can, once and for all, clear up the gallstone vs congealed olive oil question for those who use this site. I did note that on another gallstone flush site someone had scanned a "positive" gallstone lab report based on a stone sent after a similar gallstone flush. Like everyone else I am in horrible pain on a daily basis. Last year, while I was in Jordan (the country)I had a very severe long lasting attack. I was sure I had hepatitis as I became jaundiced, and even went so far as to have a blood test done in a foreign country,in a dingy lab where I didn't understand the what anyone was saying. A very scary experience indeed. So, all of that said... I have added organic filtered apple juice to my daily routine and will be attempting a flush this coming weekend ( Sunday and Monday for me)and will let eveyone know what happens then. Afterwards, we'll see what the lab test verdict is. Here's hoping I can prove the skeptics wrong.
|Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 06:16 pm: |
I'm curious of the results. I too am only 24 and had several attacks before.
Everytime I went to the doctor, and everytime I showed elevated levels of bilirubine: just at the boundary what is normal. One doctor never did a palpitation, the other internist told me to just eat more. No diagnosis was ever made.
With one attack I went straight into the ER with terrible pain, they did blood work showing no inflammation but elevated bilirubine.. never made a diagnosis and sent me home with the message I should consult my general practicioner if the pain continued to last. I figure I had a bad stomach flue (as I figured the previous times) and stayed home with a souring fever.
I just had another attack and finally all the pieces fell in their place when reading this forum. Unfortunately due to academic course work I was unable to consult a doctor or even contemplate an operation, so I sat this attack out and now I am feeling fine again.
I will demand a scan from the doctor this time, ridiculous that it was never considered.
|Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 06:38 am: |
Hi there, I have been enjoying reading all the information and messages left by so many people. I too am having problems with my Gall Bladder area, which is what lead me to this site. I havent been to see the doctor about it, but I am positive that this is what Im dealing with.
I had a severe bout of pain the other night, it lasted several hours and it was after I endulged myself in coney dogs and a beer..(not something i do often at all, and something i will never do again LOL)
I had pain in the form of pressure, feeling so full I could burst. I had pain also in the gall bladder area that went right through to my back. I have suffered from panic disorder for the last ten years and am always slightly agitated, and Im sure this has taken its toll on my body in more ways than I can imagine.
Last year, I was diagnosed with an enlarged heart from hypertension as my blood pressure was 219/141 when they finally discovered it, all due to anxiety. I had been suffering from symptoms of a heart attack, but ignored it as I am only 33 years old and thought I was just being panicky about the symptoms. However, I have had tenderness in the area of my gall bladder from time to time, for the last couple of years, but I have not ever experienced pain and discomfort like that in the past. I am on Diovan and Hydrochlorothiazide for blood pressure and Paxil for the panic attacks. My questions are simply this: Do I have to take the stone free, as I am concerned about it conflicting with my meds? Secondly, is the fasting on applejuice necessary for the gall bladder flush or can it be skipped and go directly to the olive oil/lemon juice mixture? And, finally, if I am to fast on apple juice for three days, does this mean no food or water for 3 days....just apple juice? If there are some particular food allowances during the fasting, I would love to know what they are, as I cant imagine going without food for 3 days! LOL. I know some of these questions may seem silly to ask, but I must as i dont want to make errors as Im flushing the gall bladder. I look forward to hearing your advice. Also, if you have any pointers or remedies for minimizing panic attacks and anxiety without pharmaceuticals, i would love to hear them! Thanks so much!!
|Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 04:01 pm: |
I am Brynn and found this website as I was searching for some information as to what to do to dissolve a galstone. I don't have a galstone but my mother does. She's been suffering from it for many many years. My mom is in Mongolia but I live here in the States. I just found out that she needs to have a surgery because it's getting very painful. She is 67, and very weak. So I am afraid that the surgery might bot be the best choice for her. If there is any magical pills or dissolver I want to buy and send it to her. I found many on line but I am confused about which one to buy.
Any advice will be greatly appriciated.
|Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 03:34 pm: |
Hello Ingrid and all,
I was diagnosed with GallBladder stone yesterday. I am 31 years old and still feeds my 19 months old daughter. They are in multiple numbers. We are of Indian origin.
I had severe pains twice and then it was dignosed in ultrasound.
I have read lot about Stone Free, Olive, Raddish oil, Aplles etc on this website.
Please guide us how to start about it. We want to avoide surgery at any cost.
Do I have to use a particular variety of Olive oil, any specific apple.
please advice me.
Your help will bw great to us.
|Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 09:08 am: |
About 7 years ago, I suspected GB problems and sought medical care. I had an ultrasound done and it was confirmed that indeed I did have gallstones. I saw a surgeon right away and off course the only recourse in his opinion was surgery. I had begun about reading alternative treatments and gallbladder flushes. He waved his hand as if I were being riduculous. He cautioned me, as he must I suppose of the "dangers." I persisted and thanked him, but he surprised me and got angry!! He said that he would see me again and that I would "come back crawling to him!" Well, I did a gallbladder flush (without epsom salt at that time) and while I don't remember seeing "stones" come out, I did feel much, much better. Haha Doctor!! And that was SEVEN years ago!!
Though I corrected poor eating for a couple of years, you know how laziness and the availability of fast food dissolves good eating habits and once again I have been symptomatic for almost a year.
I wanted to do a flush and found this WONDERFUL sight. I thank Ingrid and all those who have shared their experiences here. I completed a 3 day apple juice fast, just regular grocery store brand. I added about a half tsp. of turmeric 3 times a day with the juice since that is the main ingredient of Stone Free. Last night I began!! I mixed 4 TBS of epsom salt in water and I must say that was the worst part of the whole process! I couldnt drink but about half of that. I mixed one cup of lemon juice with one cup of cold pressed extra virgin olive oil. I drank that while lying in bed watching movies. I had to keep stopping the movie and running to the bathroom with completely watery BMs about 14 times before falling asleep. But it was all painfree. I went to bed, slept like a baby and never woke once. This morning, true to the experiences of so many, I began passing green marbles and peas. Ahhh....I am feeling better. I write all this to say to others that keeping your gallbladder is certainly possible! Despite what that dr. said, I did NOT come crawling back and still have my GB 7 years after his pronouncement, and hope to keep it that way! I think sharing information and experiences is very valuable and I thank all who have done so in all the archives. While I do see surgery as an option and am thankful for the dedicated doctors who give us their best ideas, I also think that the medical profession should not discount alternatives. I think that most people are not persistent in seeking out information and are fearful in putting it into practice. Too bad. I can't tell you how many people that I have told about the GB flush have said, "You drank WHAT??!!" Well, the validity is that many people feel much better, are symptom-free AND still retain their gallbladders!! Incidently I am now 44 yr. old. FLUSH ON!! Pam
|Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 06:39 am: |
Ia am in the process of the gallbladder fluch, statted lest night by drinking the olive oil mixture. I have however encountered a slight problem...I have passed a small amount (about 2 tsp.) of fresh red blood clots this morning with my stools. I have never passed blood in my stool before. Is this normal or should I be concerned if it continues. I have no other underlying illnesses and am 32YOA.
|Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 06:41 am: |
Ia am in the process of the gallbladder fluch, started last night by drinking the olive oil mixture. I have however encountered a slight problem...I have passed a small amount (about 2 tsp.) of fresh red blood clots this morning with my stools. I have never passed blood in my stool before. Is this normal or should I be concerned if it continues. I have no other underlying illnesses and am 32YOA.
|Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:15 am: |
I was 3 months pregnant when I began to have intense pains under my ribs and in my back. I went to the emergency room and they said it was probably just heartburn or indigestion. I then began having these pains at least once a week. After being in constant pain and vomiting everything in my body, my doctor finally did an ultrasound to check for gall stones. It was confirmed that I did indeed have gall stones. My doctor then told me that there was nothing I could do until I delivered my baby. That was a fun six months.
After having my daughter, I scheduled the surgery as soon as I could. January 13, 2005 was one of the best days of my life, my gall bladder was gone.
The surgery was very short and I was sent home a few hours afterwards. I was fully recovered in 5 days and was back in school.
Stop talking about the "flush" and just have your gall bladder removed. The surgery is not invasive and you are only left with 4 tiny scars. You all are scared of the surgery, but you will deal with this horrific pain? Why?
I have had two children, one of them without any drugs. The gall stones were far worse than childbirth. The surgery was not that painful and the recovery is quick. Why put yourself through this pain any longer than necessary. I definitely recommend the surgery. Forget the "flush"!!!!!
|Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 09:55 pm: |
WHAT are you people thinking?? Of course no one answers you! This site is a TOTAL scam! What you *think* are gallstones you are passing from this "flush" is conjugated olive oil! Acid (lemon or apple juice and stomach) mixed with oil in your stomach creates soap stones (this how they used to make lye soap, look it up). That's IT, it's NOT gallstones. If you had a tiny 1/2 pea sized stone in your bile duct you'd be in such unbearable pain you can't even breath, no way in heck you'd pass an egg size or any other out of that tiny duct! This site is a horrible sham and could even be deadly. If you really do have gallstones and drink all that oil which causes incredible contracting of the gallbladder and dislodges a stone to your pancreas, you can DIE. For God's sake, please see a REAL doctor. They are not out to collect gallbladders for insurance money. How ridiculous and cruel is this site to scare people in this way, and WHY??? just so *they* can get your money...and to put your life at risk for a little money..it's disgusting..
|Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 12:39 am: |
I have been getting gallbladder attacks for at least 5 years, but only found out I had gallstones in June 2005. The reason for the delay is that when I smoke, I don't feel the pain of the attacks. I get the bloating etc, but not the pain. When I stop smoking (first time 5 years ago) within weeks I get the pain. Each time I have starting smoking again just to get rid of the pain, and for years I thought it was some type of detox reaction. When I start smoking again, the pain attacks stopped with days. Unfortunatley however, it has merely been hiding the problem, and I've been getting sicker over time. I've never heard anyone mention this type of response - has it happened to anyone else? (FYI, smoking can reduce capillary blood flow, which is why gums feel more sensitive to people who stop smoking).
This year I stopped smoking and stayed stopped, expecting the "detox" effect would eventaully go away. Unfortunately it continued to get worse. A herbalist picked the gallbladder problem straight away, but the doctors were fooled by the smoking/pain-free aspect. In the end I told them to give me an ultra-sound, and it was confirmed I had many, large gallstones and a fatty liver.
The doctors (I saw a couple) said an operation was the only alternative.
My herbalist wasn't too fussed at all. He said the stones were too large to flush safely, and instead, we are dissolving them. All I do is drink a kind of green tea, and the process is supposed to take 3-4 months.
Chronic gallbladder disease (along with poorly functioning liver, kidneys, pancreas, instestine etc) is a major part of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I first though I might have CFS about 2 years ago, and by June of this year, I was in a pretty bad way.
I have a senior, well paid job, and I'm good at what I do. I think I probably had until early next year before I got fired (that long because I had a good history) because I had become almost totally non-performing. I also have four kids and a wife, and our family life was suffering from me being so lifeless. I have also put on weight over the last five years after staying basically the same trim build through my 20's and 30's.
Withins days of the herbal treatment I began to feel much, much better, and now seven weeks later, I feel the best I have in years. One of the worst things about chronic fatigue is that it creeps up on you. While I knew something was wrong, it is only now I can see how bad I was.
I don't know how the gallstone disolving process will work, but I am very optimistic. Each week I feel so much better, and my chinese herbalist doctor is quite relaxed about the whole thing.
So far he has delivered big time, including the correct original diagnosis.
If you are suffering the pain and fatigue of a gallbladder condition, I would suggest a few simple steps :
1) cut out fat
2) get an ultrasound to confirm the condition
3) find a herbalist (preferbly one someone can recommend) and talk about a program to restore your energy and get rid of the stones
4) look at a range of sites and options before having surgery. As I said to my doctors, surgery is what I will do if all else fails....its NOT the first thing I'm going to try.
5) take a bit of care if choosing flushing. While lots of people swear by it, I am guided by my herbalist who points out while it has its place, you don't want to get a stone stuck in a bile duct.
6) remember what caused the problem. Stones are the symptom. For me this is a wake up call. While I want to get rid of the stones, I also want to get rid of the cause. Its pretty simple too - look after your insides and they probably want cause you trouble!
7) unless your case is extremely dire, you have time to check things out. The attacks are mechanical - eat fat and the gallbladder will kick into gear. Don't eat fat or dense foods like pork, and you'll probably be OK
On a final note : the doctors have been a waste of time for me. I had to argue about what was wrong and had to insist on an ultrasound (they assurred me the problem was something else, until they saw the ultrasound!). For treatment, there is one option only, and thats to operate - absolutely no alternatives.
Given how remarkably common this type of problem seems to be, I find it remarkable that even speacialists seem to have so much trouble diagnosing and then treating gallstones.
If just drinking green tea solves it for me, I will be making an issue with my local government representatives, health department, press, as well as the two doctors concerned. Its time to start waving the flag on the medical arrogance and incompetence which leads so many of us to be porrly treated. If enough people do it, we might start getting sound medical advice instead of our own research on websites! I won't get far of course, but the more of us who make a fuss, the sooner we'll start getting decent treatment.
|Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 04:28 pm: |
My name is Irene I living in Toronto-Canada I was just diagnosed with gallbladder stones, after a ultrasound. I have been getting gallbladder attacks in several time and I
have just been advised by my docotor to go for the surgery.I do not want the surgery, What
|Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 04:47 pm: |
My name is Irene I living in Toronto-Canada I was just diagnosed with gallbladder stones, after a ultrasound. I have been getting gallbladder attacks in several time and I
have just been advised by my docotor to go for the surgery.I do not want the surgery, What can I do.
|Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 01:58 pm: |
your site is very interesting,but sadly I found it too late.I had my gall bladder removed two weeks ago and was looking for information on what sort of diet I should be following,I dont eat meat ,but do eat fish.Can you give me any advice as my doctor gave me very little other than keep it low fat.
|Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 06:23 am: |
I am have a gall stones in my Gall Bladder. I have no idea about this. i was hospitalized and suppose to be operated but when I ws transfered to a better hospital I was Endoscopy only. How you can help me about my food habbit. What the suggested foods to eat. Thanks for helping.
|Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 06:19 am: |
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