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Diane Estarr
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 01:36 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,

i hope you can help me...

I read your article about parasite cleansing and i wondered how one would go about doing a cleanse on oneself that is gentle and reliable, if there is any such thing... I have read about a product called "Clear" which sounds really good but is unfortunately too expensive for me at the moment ( it is used in conjunction with two other products over a 3 month period...)and so i am wondering whether there is an effective treatment which i could do myself...

What exactly i would like is info on what to take, how often, in what order etc...
For example is clove oil safe to take everyday? For how long? Do i take with meals? Do i take the essential oil and how many drops? Do i also need to take Black Walnut tincture? When?

You said that Wormwood is not your favourite herb and i have read other negative things about this herb...

I hope this is not too much to ask, i appreciate your help on this,

Best wishes,

Diane Estarr
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Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 01:35 am:   

This is a situation in which no one can honestly say that one size fits all. It really isn't responsible for anyone to assume that the symptoms experienced by a person relate to parasites unless tests have been run that prove the existence of parasites . . . or parasites have been seen. Since some are very large, this possibility exists; but many are microscopic.

Let us assume that someone really has parasites, the question is which formula will work best for that person and the particular parasites in question. Unfortunately, we don't have pat answers here.

I recently visited a ranch and herbal laboratory in California. Their formula had been rigorously tested on animals, using not just blind and double blind regimes but three different protocols. The first group of animals received the conventional pharmaceutical product. These animals died and when autopsied, it was found that the parasites had been killed by the drugs, but then rotted in the cavities where they died. The animals had actually died of infections, complications of the cure.

The second group was given a placebo of plain water. They obviously did not suffer any complications, but they were not cured.

The third group was given an herbal formula for three weeks, followed by a different herbal formula for immune boosting (for two weeks), and then the original anti-parasitic formula for one week. In all cases, this had been sufficient to eradicate all evidence of parasitization.

Of course, there are no guarantees that anyone, animal or human, would not reinfect. The opportunities for reinfection are simply enormous.

Prior to this visit, I had not been aware of the infection issue, but I had visualized holes where the parasites had burrowed through tissues. Many years ago, my vet showed me an organ with heart worms, in formaldehyde. It was like a scene from the Godfather for me. However, I immediately felt that if the organ is perforated by a parasite, the organ needs to be regenerated.

One of my dogs had a serious infection years ago. I gave her a conventional pharmaceutical medication. She was so miserable and her breath smelled of chemicals for at least ten days afterwards. Her intestines were raw and she passed blood when she eliminated. I gave her porridge with slippery elm and all her symptoms were corrected with one meal. She never had a recurrence either, at least none that came to my attention.

I could never give any of my animals such medicines ever again. They were far too harsh. So, I have searched for alternatives. I started with garlic. Some of my dogs like garlic, others walk away. I'm not sure it works on every condition either.

I think the bottom line is that holistic treatments are partly a matter of trial and error unless you run the necessary tests and are supervised by someone familiar with parasitology. The products provided over this site are traditional. I personally think it's useful to consider Ayurvedic and South American and African treatments because the healers from these areas have had years to develop protocols. In the West, we tend to deny the seriousness of parasitic infection so why would we have the necessary protocols?

The products mentioned on this site are safe and relatively mild, but we have lots of additional products that are not listed. People can contact me privately if the milder treatments do not produce the desired results.

As far as the clove oil goes, all one is taking is a drop, mixed into another oil. I sometimes put the drop into tea, sometimes I add 15 drops to an ounce of olive or sesame oil and then take half a dropper from that bottle, still only a drop at a time. In this dosage, it is perfectly safe. Clove oil is bactericidal in larger quantities, but 4-5 drops is really a big dose and would greatly stimulate peristalsis.
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Diane Estarr
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 10:45 am:   

Hi Ingrid,

thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

I am not sure that i suffer from parasites but i was reading several articles on the web that all indicated that most people do without knowing that they do and it made sense to me. I have felt in the past that the food i was eating (all good and healthy...) was not necessarily all being absorbed properly by me ( though i am aware that this could have other causes...)

It seems to me that to be safe i will need to look at using the more expensive product ( which has immune boosting herbs etc as one phase of the treatment...) Have you heard of it? It is called "Clear"? It is endorsed by Dr Anderson ( can't remember his first name...) who is one of the first westerners to talk about and deal with parasite cleansing i think...

I am sorry to hear about your dog but very pleased that you knew enough to help it. It is concerning that these products are what are available for pets...

thanks again,

take care,

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Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 01:28 pm:   


I don't know about "Clear." Like you, I did a lot of internet searches.

I lived in Asia for many years. In 1963, I returned to Hawaii and then went on to graduate school in New England but had terrible intestinal cramping. No tests revealed anything. My mother visited the East-West Center where I had done my undergraduate work. She spoke with a doctor from Thailand who said that parasites typically burrow under the intestinal lining and lay their eggs there. He said that normal parasite tests would come up negative except for the exact moments when the eggs hatched and the intestinal linings sloughed off.

Based on this information, I self-prescribed a diet of cream of wheat for months and months and months. I went three months longer than was recommended by the doctor. I healed . . . or perhaps only the membrane linings healed the way slippery elm had aided Runeka (my dog).

Of course, half the people I know have read the Hulda Clark book. I think she is onto something but is too simplistic. So, I borrowed a stack of medical books on parasitology. I literally plowed through 3000 pages and hit countless net sites. The basic ingredients of virtually all the Western formulae are the same, but I do not think they are adequate for all situations.

On top of this, cloves are not cloves are not cloves. This precious spice comes from tropical areas like Sri Lanka. In Renaissance times, 3-4 cloves paid all the real estate taxes for palaces in Florence, but most cloves today are irradiated with 30,000 times the radiation permitted for chest x-rays. The volatile oils are destroyed by irradiation and what remains is an irritating object with modest aroma.

Real cloves are highly aromatic. They come from the buds of flowers and are as fragrant as the most treasured tropical blossoms. They are antiseptic and cleansing and rich enough in essential oils to penetrate parasite eggs and destroy both the eggs and bacteria.

I am not saying that all commercial products use irradiated cloves, but most would because sourcing in large quantities means going to mainstream markets.

Good black walnut is also not easy to find. We now have 3-4 sources and despite what is posted on the web, we are automatically upgrading to a higher quality product unless people order the alcohol-free version (which I personally do not recommend.) This is another issue for me because some people take all the ingredients and mix them together as if it doesn't matter what part of the plant one uses or how the products are combined.

This is not to say that everyone is marching out of tune, but you really need to know what you are taking and why. This said, the Ayurvedic formula is very safe, but if I were certain I had parasites, I'd take more than just that formula . . . and I'd be really careful about boosting my immunity.

I have some shopping cart problems to resolve. In the meantime, our immune products are on

Best wishes!
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Diane Estarr
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 04:43 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,

thanks again for taking the time...

I just looked at the site i got the info on "Clear" from and it looks even more impressive! Listen to this!:
"all products are organic, non-irraditated, freshly ground and encapsulated or bottled the same day"

Now don't think that i am advertising for them, i have only an interest as a possible user of their products and i thought since you haven't heard of them you may like to go and check out this site and tell me what you think!

They recommend that one uses three of their products together i think... Clear, Experience and Harmony, being parasite cleanser, bowel toner and immune system strengthener respectively.

Dr. Anderson was the name of the doctor i was searching for and he has something to say on the site too. You should find the site interesting i think and i would be very interested to hear what you think.

Best Wishes,

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Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 06:40 pm:   


I looked at the site and cannot, of course, judge the quality from the ingredient list. It's really not for me to place a spin on someone else's work. I personally would not, however, use anything sweet while addressing parasites. I also prefer to use cloves independently of other products . . . and I prefer to use system regenerators and immune boosters rather than purgatives, but it's a matter of personal choice. You make the best decision you know how and let others know what happens for you, realizing, of course, that everyone is different as is every parasite.

My own bowel cleanse product is simply superb. It's called "Sacred Bark Formula" and I sell it in bulk powder that people can encapsulate on their own.

Good luck!
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Diane Estarr
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 12:35 pm:   

Thanks Ingrid...

Best Wishes,

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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 05:15 pm:   

Just read the parasite posts. When I was 10, I had a case of pinworms. Was given something called Gentian Violet, and I realize now it must have been the Gentian herb. Is that still used?

Vets are a little like doctors now - when my poodle had a red eye, and I went to them, they wanted to give him a 300 dollar operation and an antiinflammatory drug. Instead, I stopped giving him the "Moist and Meaty" product I'd fallen into the habit of buying because it had a lot of red and yellow food coloring (I had felt guilty about it anyway, because I knew it wasn't good, even though he loved it) and lo and behold the red eye receded and almost entirely went away. I told the vet, but no one seemed impressed at such a simple and inexpensive solution. Now he eats Science diet - he's only happy with some soft meaty food - not the dry food.
Susan Heckel
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 08:38 pm:   

Now, you need to see if he eliminates enough. I have heard that this diet makes it easier to maintain your yard but that it lacks bulk.
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Hannah Waite
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2001 - 01:14 pm:   

Interesting discussion...I used the Clear,Harmony and Experience products in the I'd been in the tropics and clearly had at least giardia,if not other seemed to be effective...and expensive...

My question is about parasites and hair lose (female,head,primarily well as pubic)..
Many years ago, in the natural healing circles, I remember hearing that microscopic parasites were believed/known to be the cause of you know anything more on the subject ? And what to do about it ?

My hair used to be thick (tho fine) and very curly...I've been starting to have very visible thinning and 'balding' areas,front top of head...and have lost much of the natural curl...
and am not happy about it...

I was thinking that much of this had to do with ptsd,chronic pain and chronic fatique,plus surgery and the drugs Ihave been needing to take to stay more or less functional...but parasites could also be involved,as I continue to spend time in the tropics...and we also have parasites in our 'superclean' USA ,but as you say,no protocol for reliable testing.

(in the 70's, after major surgery ,partial hysterectomy at very young age, my hair fell out in handfuls,and I was told anesthesia was the later filled back in..)The hair is not growing back in now...I hope you can help. Thanks.
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 02:33 am:   

In my experience, hair loss is primarily related to deficiency conditions, usually caused by adrenal stress and hyperactivity of the kidneys. As the kidneys go into spasm, fluids are eliminated "prematurely," i.e. before vital trace minerals are absorbed and recycled. To maintain balance, the body cannabalizes wherever it can to obtain the tiny amounts of minerals it needs. It eats the roots of the hair and also tends to demineralize bones in order to keep blood pH in safe limits.

This may all be related because parasites play havoc with pH. When I was reading parasitology textbooks, I found pictures of walls of calcium near areas of parasite infestation. It was not discussed whether the body mobilized the calcium to the parasitized areas in order to reduce the risk of perforation of organs or whether the calcium constituted some kind of waste product excreted by the parasites, like a worm casing. Parasites do excrete an ammonia gas so perhaps the chemists reading this can interpret what would happen if ammonia were being pumped into the tissues at the staggering rate that is likely for some victims.

Only a few days ago, I heard about someone who passed a parasite that was 30 inches long and as thick as a broomstick. This is probably hair raising . . . but not the cause of hair loss.

In short, my experience is that hair loss is related to too much adrenal activity, poor assimilation of nutrients, too rapid elimination of fluids, and deficiency conditions in general. Taking trace minerals helps some people but not if the minerals pass through without being absorbed. Chyawanprash helps many people to assimilate better, but if stress and/or parasites are the underlying cause, they obviously need to be addressed before the problem can be fully corrected.

Keep us posted as to what works for you.
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Hannah Waite
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:04 am:   

Well,I certainly have been diagnosed with adrenal stress,have struggled with assimilating nutrients,eliminate fluids way fast,and have deficiency problems including anemia for years (altho the anemia seems no longer to be a problem)..

what to do ? I have taken liquid trace minerals,and every kind of supplement you can imagine...the Super Blue Green algae, which I took for years seemed to make a difference..but no longer am on...

What is chyawanprash ?and what do you recommend for stress/parasite addressing ?Thanks,Ingrid...
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Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2001 - 03:14 am:   

If you strengthen your adrenals with adrenal tonics, there is a possibility that the hyperactivity will subside and that the other problems will gradually self-correct. You need to see what the sources of stress are and what you can do to reduce the underlying causes of stress.

In my experience the other supplements are only of middling value until the adrenals themselves are nourished enough to increase your tolerance for stress.
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nick mac
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 08:50 am:   

Hi Ingrid, thks 4 your sight and the info on it especially that which relates to parasites. I also am a big fan of Joseph Campbell but anyway..
I've got a rotten stomach it feels like, have done for a long time, although it comes and goes and my energy levels r quite pathetic as well. Over the years I've replaced my mercury fillings and have come to a diet that i have faith in. My kidneys and liver seem normal from routine tests, feaces tests were also clean and I'm having my intestinal tract looked at in the near future(but like everything else it'll probably not show up with anything wrong!!) and to cut a long story short I'm investigating parasites.
I live on the other side of the world from America and the only parasite formulas I've come across have been quite generic(ingrediants being cloves, black walnut, wormwood etc). After reading your page I'm going to try cayenne pepper and see what happens. Also I've been having pumpkins seeds but they make me and my stomach feel absolutely awful so i can't take too many of them or else my stomach bcomes an infernal pit of hell!!! Could this extreme reaction possibly b a good sign of parasites(ringworms?) dying? And also r there any other common hot-spices and bitters that u know of that have been useful for people in the past when doing a cleanse. Thanks, all the best, Nick.
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Posted on Monday, November 12, 2001 - 02:35 am:   


Where are you?

The extreme reaction you describe from eating pumpkin seeds very likely indicates that you have a reaction or some little hitchhikers are biting the dust and complaining badly in the process.

Apple cider vinegar is allegedly useful in destroying eggs (which is partly what the cloves/clove oil does).

I think I mentioned calamyra figs on this site. You can try the usual formulas or alternate one and then another and another until you find the one that works for you. Since most tests fail to determine the presence of parasites, the ball is usually in the patient's court . . . and must be the initiative also.

Good luck and hope you start feeling better.

I will be adding a few more formulas in a week or two, but the ones I have already mentioned work for lots of people, granted, not equally for everyone so it's trial and error.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 07:11 am:   

Thanks so much 4 replying. I will try the above and keep a look out for any updates on your sight also. I'm no stranger to trial and error so no problems there anyway. Lastly thanks again for your sight and i think you r an admirable person for doing this, all the best Nick.
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sherry oglesby
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 09:43 pm:   

i am writing on parasites and mercury toxicity.
I am wondering a very good formula to get rid of parasites. I am on dmsa for mercury.
Does anyone know about this product.
I would like something mild that kills parasites.
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Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 10:42 pm:   

The Banyan products are very mild, but somewhere between mild and effective, there has to be a judgment call. The different products on the market were all developed by people who had to make certain assumptions before formulating the products. Are we talking about giardia or tapeworms, amoebas or flukes? Are the parasites mature or young, still in eggs or hatched? Were the diseases contracted in temperate climates or while traveling in the tropics. Everyone has slightly different expertise in putting together formulas and some people benefit more from feedback from users to tweak the formulas. Some formulas are completely traditional or copy cat versions of a popular formula, not necessarily a bad thing, but usually a sign that the formulator has no personal experience and cannot improve upon a textbook formula. Moreover, some formulas use much better quality herbs than others. Some people do not even use the correct herbs, i.e., what is on the label is not what they put in the bottle . . . or they used the wrong part of the herb. There are lots of lay practitioners out there, many of whom have read Hulda Clark, but if they have never harvested an herb before or made a tincture, who knows what the quality and potency will be.

So, you try one thing and then another until you find what works for you, but start out well-informed and you will avoid rediscovering the wheel. It's usually not easy to succeed at this, but many eventually win the battle: by following advice carefully. For instance, including children and pets in the program is essential or the infection is passed from one individual to another through intermediate hosts.

Good luck!
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Posted on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 09:49 pm:   

Hi, Ingrid: Just found your site and have been reading as much as I can absorb. After reading this bulletin board section re:parasites, I'm a bit more confused; sounds like one must know what kind of parasites one has?? Or is there a general parasite cleanse that will work for most? Sounds also like the Banyan products are too mild to work; what is available on your site that would work better? Wanted to order clove oil and black walnut tincture and a cleanse, but do I ingest them all at during the same period, or separately in some sequence? I'm anxious to get started to regain my health and energy. Thanks in advance for your reply.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 12:18 am:   

Very few labs would detect parasites so you deduce the type of parasites you might have based on symptoms and life style. For instance, a major bout of mal de tourista in Mexico would be a clue whereas repeated contact with infected children or animals might be another clue.

In your situation, I would start with the product that is already formulated, not all separate herbs . . . and then follow the advice of the producer.
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Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 11:06 am:   

For the past week, I have been reading the information on your website. What got me here was that on ultrasound a week ago, a gallstone was found. Aside from that I have been reading the information you give on parasite infestation. Would you think that certain food cravings and food avoidance/aversion could indicate certain types of parasites, i.e. craving carbohydrates (pasta, crackers) while nearly gagging at the thought of a green salad, tomatoes, etc. even though those are foods normally eaten & enjoyed? I seem to cycle through the above monthly to the point of not being able to choke down brocolli, asparagus, salad, etc. but will want pasta, potatoes, breads for breakfast, lunch, and supper. The above is all something that I started experiencing a few years ago but it seems to have gotten worse. Reading through the list of symptoms that one could have if parasites were present, I find that many of those fit my scenario as well as many trips to the doctor over the last few years to be told "nothing is wrong" as well as being misdiagnosed, i.e. CFS, IBS. (Avoidance of wheat for six months cleared all symptoms of both and after I added acidophilus, I was able to eat wheat again with no stomach problems). Appreciate your input on the above.
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Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 10:08 pm:   

This is hard to say. The only thing to do is try to find the answer to your question: lab tests or try a protocol to see how you respond. I just want to reiterate how very hard it is to deal with parasites. I really don't care what others say, it is a major challenge.

Keep us posted and good luck!
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Shannon L.
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:48 pm:   

Please help me ! I have a 10.5 month old baby boy, Luke, that I think has parasites. Since he was about 12 weeks old he has been waking up ALL through the night with excruciating stomach pain. No, it is not colic as it has not gone away. From what I have read, he may have contracted parasites. He was a very normal baby, but slept alot. Slept through the night at 10 weeks, then 2 weeks later, he got an ear infection and never was the same after that. He would initially get up every 20 to 30 minutes with such bad stomach pain that he was just scream at the top of his lungs and NOTHING I would do would be sufficient. Then he started to vomit ALL THE TIME. He became very hungry all the time. Then he started to vomit after every feeding, ALOT. I have since been to doctors and they seem to think it is reflux. Well, the medicine for reflux did not work. So, we just deal with it. Now, he gets up like clockwork between 11pm and 12:30 with major stomach pains. You can tell because if I am holding him, I feel his stomach contracting. Although he does not spit up as much, I think it maybe that I do not give him as many bottles now, but when he did, alot of the time it would be bile smelling. The doctors of course did not believe me and I am at a loss. What can I do for my baby at this young age? Oh, you know as a Mom, you have this intuition, well early on, I was concerned that he had this very early on, as it seemed that everytime he would cry inconsolably, it seemed that when he urinated, he was better. No visible signs of the normal bladder infection, so docs did nothing. I am convinced that he has parasites. If I have to have him tested, what do I ask my doc for? Please help me as I am at a loss and cannot continue to see my baby in such pain. We do have a cat and carpet and dogs (outside dogs)and I have a 2.5 yr old that cannot hold her urine that well either. We are trying to potty train, but I am afraid that they both have this. I nursed for about 1 week and then the dreaded formula (for some backround).

Any help would be appreciated =-)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:19 pm:   


What you have described may or may not be parasites. Here are my questions to you.

First, are you microwaving the formula? This makes it almost impossible for many babies to digest and will contribute significantly to gastric distress.

Second, what's in the formula? You want to be sure there are no GMO components or soy. These days, I wouldn't trust anyone to produce a good product for the mass market.

Third, you might try adding just a little dill and/or fennel water to the formula. You get the seeds (I have them) and bash them up a little bit. Boil some water and add the seeds to the water and let them sit (with the heat turned off) for at least 15-20 minutes. Then, you just add a tablespoon of this water to the formula.

What you described with both children sounds more like a urinary issue than a bowel one. This is common when there is infection or heaven forbid at their age, stones. Either one could be aggravated by a pH imbalance. Urine needs to be in the 5-5.5 range to protect against infection. When the pH is too high (more alkaline or really less acidic), it is very difficult to address infection.

The vomiting and bile suggest that the food offered is not being metabolized. Vomiting would reduce the distress in the stomach, but if it continues, there will be weight loss and serious deficiency conditions.

After traveling around this country, I am deeply concerned that many people are being overdosed by chlorine and fluorine in the water. This could play havoc with many systems of the body, especially intestinal flora. Therefore, my main suggestions would be to try the simply things first. See if you can get some dill and fennel water happening and try a bit of intestinal flora. Lactopriv and Eugalan make up like a milkshake and are very well tolerated by children.

If none of this works, you can have a vet check your pets for worms (they are much more likely to detect them than the doctor would be to find them in the children). If they have them, it is reasonable to assume the children have picked them up.

Next, I might mention that urinary incontinence is very common among children who have watery constitutions (see the material on Ayurveda on the main part of the site) and is aggravated by excess consumption of dairy products, especially those that are laced with hormones. If the water element isn't brought into balance with the fire element, digestion will not improve nor will control over the muscles that have to work right if your potty training is to succeed. It isn't a matter of discipline, but ability to perform the expected functions.

Good luck,
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Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 01:16 am:   

Thank you so much Ingrid,
Some answers to your questions
1. Yes, I have micro'd the formula from day one! Actually I nursed for about 1 week. Today I have just tried not to micro his formula, he only gets about 16-20 oz a day of formula.

2. I have just started him on an organic soy formula by Natures Own. It is actually for toddlers, but my ped. said that at 10 months I can wean from formula, I thought that I may want to try this. * Should I switch to the organic milk based? If so, why?

Thanks for the tip on the dill or fennel seed water, I will do this. I am currently putting in about 1/2 capsule of refridgerated acidolphilis per bottle. Oh, by the way, I only use distilled water for formulas and most of the cooking.

I am really cautious about the dairy that I try to feed them, usually I try to limit it in all the family and I have now resorted to buying only organic made dairy.

I would like to hear your thoughts on soy, as this is alot of what I buy my daughter to drink.

Your time and knowledge is appreciated,

God Bless you,

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Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 11:19 am:   


Ah, ha!

I had the contractor remove the microwave from my house. I am looking for a way to dispose of these diabolical monsters that does not create bad karma. Any suggestions would be appreciated. It has always seemed terrible to me to pass them on to some other unsuspecting person and just as bad to foul the land but dumping them in some landfill where they will emit radioactive waves for 25,000 years to come (or however long.)

Soy, as you know, comes from a bean . . . and all beans are "vatagenic," meaning not only that they tend to produce gas, but they are relatively hard to digest and not as nutritious as things that are kaphagenic. When a child is growing rapidly, vata foods are not good. Dairy is kaphagenic and tends to create a lot of mucus, even dairy products that are served warm and with spices. I had a dramatic display of this when one of my mother's cockatooes sneaked some coffee from my cup and then threw up a long mucoidal mass, just the milk, not the coffee. I had never seen a bird do this before . . . and now I make sure birds stay away from my coffee.

Nut milk seems to me the best alternative. It is relatively easy to find almond milk, but cashew tastes the best. I have occasionally had it in restaurants. You would never miss dairy with it. You need the protein, which both soy and dairy have, but you don't need the GMO additives or rearrangements of Nature nor the challenges to digestion. Rice and oat milk are also easy to find, but read the labels. You might consider making your own milk-like products.

I'm not the last word on this, but I have traveled a lot and come to understand that there are such things as indigenous diets. In India, everyone consumes milk products, always warm or fermented, never pasteurized or refrigerated (not traditionally at any rate.) In China and Japan, dairy products were introduced recently. I met a Vietnamese scientist in France many years ago, and he said that the most common blood type in Vietnam lacked the capacity to produce the enzymes to digest milk. I want to state this for what it is worth because digestive complaints are serious issues with lifelong consequences unless the causes are found and adjustments are made.

I really hope the changes you are now making will help your children. Soy is hugely controversial. Every few months, there is another big study, each one challenging previous views. The genistein is regarded as protective against cancer, but it is also estrogenic. No one seems to have the last word. I stopped using it a few months ago and have felt better, this after many years of use, tofu and soy milk. What has always seemed risky to me is taking a food out of the context of traditional use. For instance, Americans eat a lot of hotdogs. The original Frankfurter was very different and was usually part of a meal that included heaps of sauerkraut and bitter beer. A hotdog on a white bun with sweet condiments and a light beer or soda is probably a formula for gastric distress.

Likewise, tofu, as consumed in the Orient, is always served with ginger, and ginger is a terrific digestive aid, but too spicy for children who are very small. Ergo, small children probably shouldn't eat tofu. Gandhi tried to introduce soy to India, but the people refused to adopt it into their diets . . . which goes to show that traditional diets generally work.

The standard Western diet is a hodge podge of ideas from afar. Imagine Italy before Marco Polo and the voyages to the New World: there would have been neither spaghetti nor tomatoes. Germans ate spelt before potatoes, and heaven only knows what the Spanish ate before paella. Think about it.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:55 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,

I've recently come to the conclusion that I have parasites. I've been ill for approx. 2 1/2 years with no prior illnesses. My doctor has suggested a thyroid condition, IBS, birth control aversion, allergies etc... All with no possible recourse. I came to this unfortunate realization when I returned from Mexico. My conditions include and are not limited to severe lethargy, abdominal pain prior to elimination, flatulance, weight gain (20pds even with regular exercise),constant craving for carbs not sweets though and itchy orifices, namely anal cavity. I've just purchased a product from Organika called Para-Free extra strenght. Does this sound familiar to you and what do you think of the ingredient list? I've been on it for two days now and haven't witnessed any change in my status. Other than not feeling completly full of...well you know. Should I be including psyllium or somekind of elimination aid in the event that I might have IBS?

Cordially yours,
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Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 02:23 pm:   


Finding the right product is a challenge. Even though we carry a number of different ones on this site, I always tell people it's a matter of trial and error. This said, I think we should look hard at where the parasites may have been contracted. I.e., if you went to Mexico, you might want to use a formula that contains some Mexican herbs, such as epazote. If you went to India, you might want cloves and vidanga; artemisia annua for Africa and so on. If you are around animals, you might have the same parasites as they have. I totally disagree with those who promise overnight miracles. It's very difficult to get rid of all the parasites and likely as not, your doctor will not even think to address this issue (though several have written me recently to discuss this.)

The points that I feel are critical are that infections can occur when the parasites die. Do read the pages on this site devoted to this. Second, intestinal flora is critical to maintaining harmony in the lower intestines. Third, you might have to hang in there for quite a while. I once fought a battle for more than a year after traveling to Singapore and Indonesia. I used to jackknife with pain after only a few bites and no one had a clue what the problem was. I went on a mono diet (while living in New York city and dating a man who loved good restaurants) but I got through that era.

At that time, my mother was so concerned that she went to the University of Hawaii to see doctors from Asia. A doctor from Thailand explained that the parasites burrow under the intestinal lining and lay their eggs there. When the eggs hatch and the lining sloughs off, there is excruciating pain and sometimes bleeding and diarrhea. It's really a dangerous condition.

Later, I worked in Vietnam for nearly two years and then India. I was always ill, one tropical infection after another, never any proper diagnosis from any Western doctor. When I went back to trek in the Himalayas, a Swiss pharmacist recommended a German intestinal flora, in a liquid. I took it every day and never had any problems on that, my last trip to Asia.

This said, it's really easy to reinfect and since survival is a basic instinct for everyone, it can come as no surprise that parasites are highly adaptive.

Good luck!
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Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 03:44 am:   

I am in the middle of the parasite cleanse. I was just now reading your information on doing a parasite cleanse. You said to use rejuvenation things, could you please be more specific and tell me exactly what I need to use? I am starting to feel rotten, thinking it is caused by the dead parasite. I have ordered ornithine but it is not here yet. I bought Hulda Clark's book, The Cure For All Diseases. I have done four liver flushes, three sucessful ones and the last one the I blew by eating fat on the day of the cleanse. TIA!
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Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 01:09 pm:   


Since there are so many different types of parasites, it's almost impossible to know what sorts of measures will work best for the individual in question.

Keep in mind that some parasites stay in the intestines and some move around in the lymphatic system and blood stream, and some perforate organs and some even get into the brain.

At minimum, one really needs to address pH balance because the secretions/excretions of the invaders play havoc with normal pH balances. I personally believe that it is also important to work on intestinal flora. This is especially true for people who have had diarrhea, but it is also reasonable for people who have had diverticulitis, irritable bowel syndrome, and constipation. The fact is that restoration of intestinal flora and peristalsis are important. People need to be sure they are eliminating and that die off is not creating a morbid condition that is simply ignored.

Then, depending on the assumptions, symptoms, and needs, you can take specific formulas to rejuvenate the colon (like Triphala) or the liver (almost always important), kidneys (often important), heart, lungs, and so forth. Where specific information is lacking, you basically have to deduce your needs from your symptoms. If you cough a lot, it is reasonable to assume that the lungs need help.

While I am extremely glad that Hulda Clark raised the level of awareness about parasites, I have yet to find anyone who conquered the challenge in the few days she appears to believe is possible. I gather she had newer information that is a little more elaborate, but die off, infection, and perforation are really major concerns for which there is no quick fix.

This should not, however, discourage anyone from seeking relief from parasite infection. It should merely create a more realistic attitude about what to expect.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 06:24 pm:   

Ingrid, Thanks for your reply. Does this mean that I can take the Stone Free with the parasite cleanse for liver support? I do not cough or have IBS. I eat live culture yogurt every day. I eliminate twice a day usually. I drink lots of water. My original problem was gall bladder attack and I have done four liver flushes for that. I know I need to do more. I am taking the ornithine now and it is helping, as I was having daily head aches and feeling miserable, so I assume it was due to the ammonia from dying parasites. Thanks for your response.
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Posted on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 06:10 pm:   

I can't really say what you or anyone "should" or "could" do, merely that if you are choosing to take charge of your own health that you need to be informed and observant.

If one thing doesn't work, you can always try another, but as you come to understand your body more and remove some of the accumulation of years of dietary indiscretions and other hazards, it actually gets simpler.

Good luck and best wishes,
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Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 01:18 am:   

About 9 years ago I travelled to remote areas in Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Northern China. I was diagnosed with an ameobic parasite and "treated".

About 5 years, I began suffering from dizziness, heartburn and gastric reflux but conventional medical doctor's could not determine a cause. After many months, I visited a kinesiologist who diagnosed it as a parasite and gave me black walnut, wormwood and grapefruit seed extract. It helped a lot.

I'm currently suffering more problems and been visiting doctor's for over a year. I've now been diagnosed with Lactose Intolerance and IBS. I have pain in my lower left abdomen, gas, bloating, constipation, greasy loose stool, insomnia, some joint pain, anal discomfort (occasional burning/tingling). I've been screened for parasites and none were found. One alarming development was recurring pain in my testicle which now has subsided. I did find a small bump on my testicle and had it tested. The tests showed no sign of problems.

Based on what I've read here and other sites, I'm planning to go back and try the black walnut-wormwood approach. From what I've learned recently, I plan to stay on this treatment for numerous months.

Can you please give me your opinion based on my history? Do you think it is parasite related? Do you think it could be the original parasite I was infected with 9 years ago?

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Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 12:53 am:   


I'm sorry about all this. I was echoing many of your concerns until I read "testicle" and suddenly I realized that "Anonymous" is not a woman!

Oh, gosh, sorry for not being serious right off the bat. My experience, and unfortunately I have had to deal with these issues myself, is that persistence and more persistence pays off.

I changed my diet radically. I eliminated almost all carbohydrates (temporarily) except for wild rice and brown rice. I also made up some capsules with mega amounts of African bird peppers, cloves, and fennel. I took acidophilus and then a variety of herbs. All seemed to help for a time, but the parasites are clever and they adapt.

Then, I tried red wine, not a lot, but a few ounces with dinner. I think all these things are good, but I was out of town without any herbs (was running late and left the little black bag at home.) I had an abscess and took some essential oil of basil and remarkably, the parasite situation shifted almost immediately! Moreover, the Universe is even more exciting because the only reason I took basil instead of cloves is that I wasn't wearing my glasses and I reached for a bottle without reading the label! These fortuitous events tend to be highly educational.

ALL essential oils are sold with the understanding that people are not going to take them internally . . . and people from India take a drop or two a day internally for all manner of conditions. I had been doing fennel oil and clove oil and lemon oil, but the basil is what seemed to do the trick. This doesn't mean it would work for anyone else, just that it is worth a try, but everyone, listen carefully, one drop is a major dose. Don't even consider several drops! Also, be absolutely certain that you have medicinal quality oils, not aromatherapy oils used in perfumes! The basil I used was from India, tulsi, not the regular kind. It is called "holy basil" in English.
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Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 11:01 pm:   

Hello Ingrid,

I am writing to ask you if you have made any herbal formula to treat the Blastocystis hominis parasite? My 20 year old daughter has been diagnosed with this parasite after having experienced nausea, anxiety, reflux, loss of weight (for fear of what she eats making her nauseous), intermittent diarrhea and then constipation for the better part of two years. She has a suspicion that she had eaten something that caused this when she had visited Spain. But, I recall that her stomach has always been sensitive and she did have pinworms when she was about 3.
Last summer she took Flagyl (awful stuff!) for 10 days, which did not get rid of the parasites and made her feel worse. The only thing that has given her relief was a parasite cleansing combination sold in tablets at the health food store. She is concerned, as am I, that it's not entirely working since she's taken the remedy since last October and each time she goes on the "3 weeks off", she begins to feel the symptoms returning right before she is to go back on them again.

Since we do not anticipate her having to stay on a parasite cleanse for the rest of her life, we're wondering what else she might try to eradicate these awful pests.

Most recently, she had learned about two drugs called Iodoquinol & Furazalidine, which she may begin taking next week. I don't know anything about these drugs, except that I am leery of pharmaceutical medications. They seem to wreak havoc on the system without actually making a difference.

Your help would be most appreciated and I thank you very much in advance.
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Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   

Charlene (and others)!

Basically, I would like for everyone to realize that the bulletin board is a part of a web site,, on which there are many pages of supporting material. The bulletin board should be consulted AFTER reading the posted pages.

There, you will find all the basic information, including in this case, the fact that I personally believe that finding the right parasite formula is a matter of trial and error as well as persistence. Please read the posted material where the reasons are explained.

Best wishes,

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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 04:18 pm:   

Dear Ingrid,

I am hoping you can help me. Three years ago I felt something wrong with my intestines. I started eating bland foods because of the uneasiness. Two weeks later in the morning I was driving I felt my stomach ready to explode. I barley made it to a restroom, green diarrhea came out rapidly. This kept up for a couple of weeks, with cramping and gurgling noises My first thought was giardia, since I had just returned from Lake Havasu, when I went to the doctors, she did not take a stool sample, instead gave me cipro and belladonna for the cramping. Those two combinations made me so sick. Over the phone, I told her that I think I have giardia; she prescribed Flagyl in about three days I finally got relief. Needless to say I was unhappy with my doctors advice, I wanted to know what happened to me. My new doctor did a stool sample, no eggs or ova showed up. I donít have any pains, but to this day, my bowels have been soft and are rarely formed, and lay on the bottom of the toilet. I also only go in the morning; the urge comes on so strong and I fear if I donít go before I leave somewhere, I will have a problem in the car. Because of all this, I have had problems with hemorrhoids. When I think back I also had just eaten at a Chinese restaurant. My fear is that I also have a parasite that burrowed into my intestines and laid eggs. Is there any advice you can offer?

Thank You, Erin
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Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:58 pm:   


I think you will find that your experience is typical of most people in the developed world. Most doctors just don't even think about parasites.

Let's backtrack a bit. Green is usually associated with bile. Most likely, something was causing your body to dump a lot of bile. There are probably several possible explanations for this.

The absence of good formation of the stools is usually due to a lack of proper intestinal flora. You need to have 85% friendly bacteria in the colon and the antibiotics (not to mention diarrhea, chlorinated water, and so forth) knock out friendly as well as other types of bacteria.

If you have urgency, at minimum you have gas because it is the accumulation of wind, vata, that enables you to eliminate. If, however, this occurs with a sense of emergency, then the gas is completely out of control, what is called "deranged" in Ayurveda. Again, part of the solution is in reestablished populations of healthy flora, but it's still possible that you have critters; it's simply not certain. This said, the odds probably favor that you do.

As you know from reading what I have posted on this site, most people are hosting unwanted guests, but I don't promise any magic bullets because each situation is so unique. Of all the people reading this site and posting to the board, we have no idea, for instance, who eats what and what kind of water they drink, whether they live on farms or in metropolitan areas with ghastly water that outgasses chlorine when you turn on the faucet.

I travel quite a bit and am always astonished at what people tolerate in their taps. Even some restaurant food tastes of chlorine or other chemicals. It ought to repel people, but it most are so accustomed to it, they don't notice. On top of all this, most people probably use the microwave without thinking. It simply impossible to be healthy until addressing all these routine factors. This said, you can try to get some good bacteria going. Some people have a lot of gas for the first few days when they introduce a probiotic. My personal favorite is Eugalan, but I also advocate buying small bottles and changing brands each time you get a probiotic because you want variety. In the long run, this is healthier than relying too much on a limited number of cultures.

Good luck!
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georgia metropulos
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 07:39 pm:   

Shannon I beleive I can help you out regrding your baby. I have 6 children of which one had identical problems. e-mail me so we can share info
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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 04:24 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,

here's an interesting progression. About two months ago, I began taking the Arjuna's Arrows series (Dragon Dreams and Phonix Rising)as I've traveled in India, Central America and the Orient over the course of my life and I figured it might
be really good for my health. I didn't have any specific symptoms of parasites, but I know I've had them in the past. Anyway, the strange thing is, I started to notice diferences in my normally smooth skin. Then itchiness. I also had a little "pimple" that appeared on my face and when I applied tea tree oil, the first one seemed to subside and a second one and then a third appeared at equal intervals of one half inch away. I was thinking that internal parasites were working their way to the surface or trying to escape...Now I have what appear to be scabies. Little brown spots, tracks and white nodes mostly on my hands and forearms, extreme itchiness especially at night. I suppose I could have been exposed to Scabies and that's all it is. But do you think there could be some relationship to my taking of the anti-parasitic herbs and these skin symptoms? I've made some power oils with clove and thyme and tea tree, etc to treat the skin surface..but this is all mighty curious. Plus makes sleeping rough. Any thoughts?

Thank you. I love your web sites and learn much from you and them about healing.

See ya,


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Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 12:19 pm:   


This is curious, and I hope that everything has subsided by now.

One of the more interesting educations I have had on this vast subject was on a Discovery Health program on parasites. There were, in fact, parasites that move under the skin and those that simply move around in the body, scavenging for food. For instance, it was said that some parasites will go to the stomach during meals, then into the intestines, and later perhaps up the esophagus. Every type has its own specific behavior.

When I was in Europe in August, I saw a particular type of parasite in the darkfield microscope and matched it to some pictures in a parasitology textbook. It said that if an ultrasound were done between midnight and 2 am, it would be possible to see the parasite dancing but detection would basically be unlikely any other time of day because the parasites were not mobile enough.

This shows how difficult the diagnosis can be. One doctor told me that he had never seen parasites in arterial blood. He speculated that the movement of the blood was too fast so parasites would prefer the by-ways to the main avenues of circulation. Another doctor thought that the parasites aren't in the blood at all, that they are in the lymph and they come out with the blood when the skin is pricked.

We tested some of these theories. I asked a different doctor to give me some samples from three places. She was practicing a form of bloodletting based apparently on the teachings of Hildegard of Bingen. They take blood within six days following a full moon. The amount depends on the color and appearance of the blood, as little as 30 ml or sometimes as much as 250 ml. I watched this procedure and was shocked at how black the blood is. She incubated the blood for several days and the room where this was occurring spelled horrible.

Anyway, I compared a drop from this blood with blood from a swollen area presumed to be metastatic lymphadema and blood from the finger. They were not perfect matches, but all three samples had parasites. I sent a photograph of the parasite that was supposedly only mobile after midnight to a lymphadema clinic. They said the patient should be treated at a school of tropical medicine. In short, something that had been diagnosed as a complication of cancer (and its treatment) was questioned.

Last week, the doctor treating a patient with a similar history of malaria and ovarian cancer and lymphadema wrote and asked me if I could believe after all these years that the problems were caused by a periodontal infection and rheumatoid arthritis.

The world of microbiology is very complex, but my observation is that parasites have a will to survive so it is not only possible that they forage where they think they will find the best meal, but they run away when conditions become inimical to their survival.

This said, it is only after careful observations by people such as yourself and specialists that we can ever hope to get to the bottom of this. In the meantime, though I have no idea what really happened with you, I am certain that many parasites are highly mobile. I am also sure that when there is a heavy load of infection, there is very rapid die off and challenges to the body to dispose of debris. In this instance, the skin would act as an auxiliary eliminatory organ. To the extent that there is toxicity, there would be itchiness. These symptoms are all consistent with what a few people have reported, but they are, of course, regarded as hypochondriacs by most physicians. Just as the doctor assured me that in 50,000 examinations of the blood, he never found a parasite in arterial blood and I found it the first time I picked up the gauntlet, there are other oversights that occur routinely.

Keep us posted.

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Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 10:19 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,

this is a follow-up to your reply on October 10 to my question of scabies vs mobile parasites coming to the surface. (I dreamed about little cresent shaped creatures with "spokes".) Anyway, my original question was, "do you think the anti parasitic herbs could be bringing the little creatures to the surface..." Which you think is possible...and you also mentioned that waste being eliminated could also cause the itchiness...So, almost all itchiness has subsided. I've periodically covered myself with essential oil mixtures like tea tree, holy basil, thyme, etc in olive oil. to kill parasites that seem to be channeling just under the skin...mostly noticed as little tracks and straight or curved white lines just under the surface...or to get the scabies, if that's what's going on. It is interestiing to me that my wife has not shown any symptoms...which suggests to me that this may not be scabies. I suppose she could be resistant to them. However, I sort of like the idea that parasites were fleeing the internal climate brought on by the Arjunas Arrows and the other herbs and that they headed for daylight. Many of the brown skin spots have disappeared. The various white "tracks" are still there and some seem a bit longer. A few feel a bit itchy. A few places seem to have little indentations now. Anyway, I think that whatever was happening is moving in a positive direction. I started a new course of herbs today and I'm interested to see what symptoms arise. I'll try to do a better job of keeping eliminations really vigorous. I've started skin brushing and I'll add herbal clensing to the system. My hope is that the continued internal herbs, occasional external applications of essential oils, and sometimes mini doses of essential oils taken internally, will clense the blood, eliminate the parasites and that my skin will also return to normal. We'll see. I'll let you know in awhile how things progress. Thank you,


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Posted on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 12:50 am:   

Thank you. I am interested in your experiences. I think that many types of skin issues will subside when the bowels work normally . . . and this, in turn, could be influenced by parasites.

There are parasites that travel and that lay eggs under the skin or that burrow and then burst through. There are so many different types of parasites and they, as well as bacteria and some fungi, have acidic waste products. This can cause itchiness.
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 01:23 am:   

Ingrid, I have seen parasites under a microscope taken from around my anal area on a piece of scotch tape. My doctor and I saw whipworms, pinworms (which I knew I had because of the anal itching), roundworms, hookworms, eggs and possibly a piece of tapeworm. Of course I nearly fainted at this infestation in my body. I have been vegetarian for twenty five years(no dairy except some organic yogurt)and grow my own organic veggies. I live on six acres by a pristine creek which I am in nude often in summers. I have dogs and cats, so I see where I COULD have gotten parasites. I don't eat carbs or sugar products and absolutely NO processed food. I eat a lot of sprouts and raw food and use rejuvalac and a good probiotic and have for fifteen years. My father was a holistic doctor so I have been on a healthy path most all of my adult life.
My internist who is from India and is also holistic first put me on Vermox, which I ended up taking twice, both times on full and new moons. The bugs vacated as did the anal itching for three months, then were back again. After researching your site I realize that hemmroids probably harbored the bugs in the folds. This time my doctor prescribed Biltricide (600mg). My own research revealed that this rx will NOT kill pinworms and is geared mostly to tapeworms, flukes, etc. Instead of taking the prescription I started taking the black walnut, wormwood,sweet wormwood clove formula, along with a liquid external formula to clean the wounds around my anal area. I also take magnesium and a flax/seed bulk drink at night to purge the dead bugs. I am baffled as to how long to continue this formula and wondering if I should switch to your formulas. I have only been on this for a week, so perhaps I'm being impatient.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. My thyroid TSH is 7 plus, so I am on Nature Throid (organic bovine formula). Does the thyroid dysfunction affecting metabolism create a good environment for the worms or did the worms affect the thryoid function? Which came first? I have had the "butt itch" issue for several years and though it was caused by hemmroids. My doctor and I both need help to find the right path. By the way, I had TWO stool tests in six months and both were clear for parasites, so forget that test!
Thank you for your attention to our health, it is greatly appreciated.
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 01:13 pm:   


It sounds like you are dealing with this. I would suggest treating your animals for parasites as well as yourself.

The parasites lay a lot of eggs so one seldom wins the battle on the first round. Most people will have to persevere.

Unfortunately, parasites are quite hard to control and the downside of being so close to Nature is that the opportunities for acquiring a parasite infection are greater, but if you lived in a high rise in a city, you would be struggling with the fluoridation of water and simply have a different quota of challenges.

You are absolutely right about the stool tests. They rarely show anything unless prepared properly and send to one of the laboratories that actually knows how to detect parasite infections.

I don't know if low thyroid function contributes to parasite survival. I rather tend to look at this from a different angle. There is a basic fire-water balance that is critical. When there is low fire, there is low output of gastric secretions and less challenge to parasites.

Your diet sounds quite austere and the fact that so much of it consists of raw foods means that you are at greater risk of ingesting live organisms, not just the enzymes but microscopic larvae and so forth. Sometimes, these things balance out. For instance, carrot juice is a fairly good parasiticide, but you may need to add a little oil to the juice to give it a better medicinal effect.
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Chris Shepherd
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 01:07 pm:   

Hi Ingrid-
I have been doing some research as to try and find a better method (herbal) of treating a problematic blood parasite that has been causing issues in our alpaca herds. It is called Eperythrozooan and it is a little hemobacterium that sits on the red blood cell and the white cells find that a threat and take out the parasite-including the red blood cell it is perched upon. Thus leaving high white cell counts, low PCV counts as well as moderate to severe anemia. It is seen as a secondary invader and usually effects immune compromised/stressed animals. It is currently treated with Oxytetracyclines and flunixen meglumine for the inflammation. This is only sometimes effective, many times needing to be repeated and very hard on the animal. I have read that you refer to the studies done on llamas with antiparasitics and drugs as well as the concern of die-off being a complication. My question is- have you had any expirience with this parasite and do you have any thoughts on possible methods of naturally eliminating the parasite and rehabilitating the llama afterward. I have read alot on the chinese wormwood and am also wondering about it's safety with pregnant animals.
Thanks so much for your time~
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Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 06:34 pm:   

I'd love to test this!
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 04:27 am:   

I have constant gurgling noises, loud, in my stomach and am often hungry soon after a meal. I get diarrhea frequently, every few days or so and the consistency/color of stool vary. Also, I have been very nauseated for the last year and have had severe insomnia. No severe stomach pain, but I have had itchy bum on and off.
I was born in central america and came to the state at the age of 4. Since then, I have returned to central america and have travled extensively-
But my last trip abroad was in 1999, Cabo San Lucas. Still, up until 2002 I lived with an animal lover who had 2 cats, a bird, rats-all running around the house. One of the cats had worms but was treated.
I have an extreme worm phobia due to experiences as a child(visuals/stories)Not personal. The simple thought of infestation is horrifying to the point where I am beginning to fear food, etc. Spaghettis are OUT.
My fear is so great that I will scream at the sight of a worm, even in books. I cannot look at any kind of worm. I have recurring nightmares about my experiences.
My fear is that if I try some of these cleansing techniques, that I will look in the John and see (or feel) something horrific. I honestly feel I would need to be hospitalized and sedated if that were to happen.
Obviously my greatest fears are the big ones, the ones you can see.
Any advice you can give me? I know this sounds extremely immature. I am 29 years old and terrified.
I cannot explain the extent of my fear: for me its like I would rather get eaten up by a shark than pass a worm/have worms. I know-it is nuts. This is driving me crazy. What are the odds that my 'symptoms' have anything to do with infestation:
What are the odds that I would have the 'scary' kind, what are the odds I would feel-and see them;
And what are the odds that the insomnia and gastric disturbances aren't just linked to excessive caffine,alcohol, and diet pills? (Years of).
Please kindly reply to my email.
I'm freaking out! (Especially after watching a discovery channel special about parasites).
Can't they just sedate me and operate and then do post anti-worm herbal treatment?
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Anke Moeller
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 11:16 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,

I am suspecting I have some worms and maybe other parasites, actually saw some white, longish pieces of maybe 3mm diameter in my stool this morning (after eating olive oil and garlic dressing last night).
I have had food sensitivities for 2 years, a biofeedback test came back with intolerance to cow's dairy, wheat, soy, eggs, bananas, and mold. I usually wake up sneezing, and nose, eyes and ears itch. Sometimes I get an itchy anus, which goes away with essential oils. I live in Singapore, and so far I thought it was just candida overgrowth, which I tried to treat with probiotics, olive leaf, pau d'arco and garlic as well as fresh herbs like thyme etc. When I am very strict with my diet, my symptoms improve, but I feel hungry...My diet has become somewhat restricted, and now I eat mainly fruit and vegetable salads, nuts and seeds. Had to eliminate goat milk ad feta cheese, too, and as I am not happy to eat meat, the occasional piece of fish is left as a concentrated protein source.
I'd love to do a cleanse, but I am 5 months pregnant and can't do the potent herbs/oils.
I am worried about the parasites robbing the baby of nutrients, and as I am planning to breastfeed for as long as possible (did 4 years with my first child), I need a compatible cleanse.
I have read about the pineapple/pumpkin seed cleanse on curezone-what do you think about that?
I have easy access to ayurvedic herbs, as my husband is Indian. I consume Chyavanprash, and when I cook, I use Indian spices (but i cook less now, because I just don't feel so good about cooked food anymore). I know Triphala is not recommended during pregnancy either-any other herbs?
Any advice is really appreciated!!
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 09:38 am:   

Hi Ingrid,
Fascinating reading. I am a 43-year-old female. I have been diagnosed with calcified cysts on my spleen, parasitic in nature. My doctor was unsure of how to proceed, so he is sending the report to my internist. I currently have B12 deficiency, acid reflux, hiatus hernia, duodenal ulcer, and divertiulosis, and over the past twenty years I have suffered from diarrhea for all but the last five (since I left my ex-husband). In the last two months the diarrhea (or really bowel urgency) has returned with a vengeance. My abdomen feels distended most of the time, even after regular bowel movements twice a day. I have been gaining weight even after eliminating all junk food, and feel fatigued most of the time. At times I attribute this to my busy schedule, but I have always filled up my days, and now when I sit down I fall asleep! I am taking ParaRid, as is the rest of my family, and a flora restorer. I am waiting for the results of a stool sample, but I do feel somewhat "relieved" since I started the cleanse. Thank you for any insight, Lori.
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Heather Caputo
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   

Hi ingrid, I have a 3 year old with chronic sinus infections. She has been on 15 to 18 antibiotics since she was born, she also had alot of ear infections as a baby and then we had tubes put in her ears and no more ear infections.. But now its chronic sinus infections, I refuse to give anymore antibiotics!! I have been using a netti pot to flush her nose, and I can't believe the stuff that comes out! I have changed her diet to mostly gluten free cereals and snacks, rice milk, lots of veges and fruits and also chicken, fish and ocasional steak which she loves. She just was all clear from a previous infection for about a week and now another. I think her immune system is shot due to the antibiotics she has had in the past, I don't know if she is just picking viruses up that quickly or if she has such and overgrowth of candida that her body is just freaking out!? I have her on grapefruit seed extract nose spray(all natural), probiotics, liquid vitamin C, xylitol, and I recently am doing 2 drops of black walnut once a day. Do you think the black walnut is safe for a 3 year old?? I tried researching it on the internet but couldn't find anything that said it was safe or not? If you have any suggestions they would be much appreciated. I feel so bad for her that she feels bad all the time. She complains of headaches because of the sinus pressure and I just don't know what else I can be doing to boost her immune system or help the over growth of candida?? Thanks in advance, Heather
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Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 09:58 pm:   

i have passed things that look like yellow or white small cotton balls with black spider looking legs hanging off of them... i have all the symptoms of parasites but no doctor can tell me what these things are... i fill the toilet with them.... and ideas?
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Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 08:32 pm:   


I stopped responding to most emails because I am planning to close down this bulletin board, but your post caught my attention. I have heard of these creatures. They are described in lectures by Dr. Christopher and the daughter of a woman who owns a health food store had the same exprience as you. She used the herbal bolus and it seemed to resolve the situation, but I have been so curious I have asked others about this. They say that you can find pictures of these objects in Mexican parasitology books but not in our textbooks. I have seen a photograph of a creature someone saved in a large Mason jar with formaldehyde, but I can't say that I have a clue what they are. According to the people who have more experience than I, these come in many sizes, up to about as large as a tennis ball. They look a bit like jelly fish except that the legs are black, just as you described.
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heather caputo
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 08:44 am:   

HI THERE!!!!!!!! I have been waiting and hopeing you would answer my email for some advice!! I wrote about my 3 year old with sinus trouble! I check this everyday, and I see that there was a response to the lady who posted after me?? Would really like you to read mine and give some advice or let me know if what I am doing sounds good or not??. thanks, heather
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Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 06:13 pm:   

Hi Heather,
I see Ingrid is giving up this board, but I thought I would ask you if you live in a mouldy house, or have pets, as it sounds like allergies. What does your doctor say? Have you taken her to a pediatrician? Check your library for a copy of "The Yeast Connection" It's an older book, I read it in the '80's. Good Luck, Lori.
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Daniel James
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 12:20 am:   

Hi, I am new to constipation. Lately I began to follow a high in fibre diet. After about 1 month I started to have dificilty to make solid waste. The waste was kind of getting harder and harder every time I go to the toilet. Now I can feel the need for toilet but I can't do any. I've been doing no solid waste toilet for about 24 hours(monday, dicember 26). Exatly before I wrote this massage I managed to make a small piece of solid waste and there was even blood. I decided to examine it. It was hard, almost like a fresh pee, and it was kind of greenish. Please have you any information or advice or anything I must know. I am going to a doctor as soon as I can, but if you have any information just send me an e-mail on
Daniel James
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 08:40 pm:   

Hi Ingrid, I am 44 years old and have been sick for 11 years with symptoms that you would be bored with if I told you all about. What has me concerned right now is my right breast with a huge cyst that my Dr. says is not cancer. It gets so swollen and painful at my period. I saw an article online about a woman with a similar problem and when her breast was surgically opened a worm fell out. If this is parasitic in my breast, how can I get it out without surgery? Is that possible. You can see it on the outside of my breast., it looks like a worm. Really pronounced and sometimes my breasts itch inside. Wierd? I know you get tired of these letters, but I am so frustrated and embarrassed. I don't know what Dr. to talk to or get help from. Do you? Thank you for reading this and I really hope to hear from you.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 01:54 am:   

If anybody is still posting here please bring your questions to the cure zone. Lots of friendly people there who may be able to help.

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